Primers?

[CROWMAN]

I cannot get any CCI primers anywhere, but have found a source for MUROM and also S & B.

I have never used any of these.

Any advantages/disadvantages that I should know of with using either?
Will be reloading for a 223, 357 and a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser.

[mag44uk]

You wont notice any difference.
I have used them all over the years.
Murom came out top in a comparison test in the US several years ago.
I have been told there wont be any more Murom primers in the UK so buy all you can get.

[Black Beard]

I think they are Russian and are meant to work better in extreme cold than American primers.

[Daryll]

I've used Murom primers in .223 and they're great!!... wish I could get more but no-one around here sells them...

[sarge4318]

MagTech primers are pretty good too, never had an issue with the ones I've used.

[CROWMAN]

Thanks for all replies, I'll try some of the Russians.

How about S & B ? I've never been too impressed with their 357 cases, but how about their primers?

[223AI]

I cannot get any CCI primers anywhere, but have found a source for MUROM and also S & B.

I have never used any of these.

Any advantages/disadvantages that I should know of with using either?
Will be reloading for a 223, 357 and a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser.

Avoid the small rifle murom, they can be soft KVB7 LR are excellent though, I'd have no issue using these, no experience on the S&B but have heard good things.


I would switch as this is a taste of things to come for US manufactured stuff, speaking to when of the head guys at Grafs about .280 brass they are looking at 2 years before some stuff gets in stock and when anything lands it sells almost instantly.

Stick to European kit and hope the yanks don't cotton on to it.

PS if changing primer work up your loads again

[Leeman]

HPS in Gloucester stock the Muroms. As a previous poster said, the large rifle are very good, the small rifle magnums can have difficulty igniting certain powders in the larger cases with small primer pockets. 6BR, no issues with any combination. 6 x 47, SRM Muroms & N560, hangfires every time, CC1450's cured that. Yet with N550, a much smaller granular powder than N560 they were fine. I just think the Muroms of any persuasion are very mild, it just doesn't seem to be as big of an issue with the larger primers however.

[simgre]

Primers are selling for crazy money in the states at the minute. A friend was beaten on a gun auction site when a thousand small rifle CCI went for $120!

[DedIdick]

Primers are selling for crazy money in the states at the minute. A friend was beaten on a gun auction site when a thousand small rifle CCI went for $120!

Kranks still have them in stock at about £50/1000

[aris]

Kranks are bringing in own brand:

https://www.henrykrank.com/blog/prim...k-primers.html

Possibly made by Prvi.

[kennyc]

Avoid the small rifle murom, they can be soft KVB7 LR are excellent though, I'd have no issue using these, no experience on the S&B but have heard good things.


I would switch as this is a taste of things to come for US manufactured stuff, speaking to when of the head guys at Grafs about .280 brass they are looking at 2 years before some stuff gets in stock and when anything lands it sells almost instantly.

Stick to European kit and hope the yanks don't cotton on to it.

PS if changing primer work up your loads again

I have used the S&B primers, absolutely fine, Muron LR OK, SR I had to back off my loads a grain as I was getting the odd pierced primer, other than that they work fine.

[BigDuncs]

I use MagTech 7.5 exclusively in .223 shooting but on Sunday had to rescue a mate who's Muroms wouldn't ignite. Won't say what he said about them....

I've used over 10k MagTechs and not had one misfire.

[CROWMAN]

I'm getting very wary of loading up my 223 with my recently bought Murom primers.

I think it will only be about 10 rounds I load up and see how they go?
My powder weight is at the lower end of the recommended weight, so hopefully all will be well.

[kennyc]

I'm getting very wary of loading up my 223 with my recently bought Murom primers.

I think it will only be about 10 rounds I load up and see how they go?
My powder weight is at the lower end of the recommended weight, so hopefully all will be well.

I was up at the upper end before I had any problems, and they are still buzzing along with the load reduced a touch