Primers?

[223AI]

I cannot get any CCI primers anywhere, but have found a source for MUROM and also S & B.

I have never used any of these.

Any advantages/disadvantages that I should know of with using either?
Will be reloading for a 223, 357 and a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser.

Avoid the small rifle murom, they can be soft KVB7 LR are excellent though, I'd have no issue using these, no experience on the S&B but have heard good things.


I would switch as this is a taste of things to come for US manufactured stuff, speaking to when of the head guys at Grafs about .280 brass they are looking at 2 years before some stuff gets in stock and when anything lands it sells almost instantly.

Stick to European kit and hope the yanks don't cotton on to it.

PS if changing primer work up your loads again

[Leeman]

HPS in Gloucester stock the Muroms. As a previous poster said, the large rifle are very good, the small rifle magnums can have difficulty igniting certain powders in the larger cases with small primer pockets. 6BR, no issues with any combination. 6 x 47, SRM Muroms & N560, hangfires every time, CC1450's cured that. Yet with N550, a much smaller granular powder than N560 they were fine. I just think the Muroms of any persuasion are very mild, it just doesn't seem to be as big of an issue with the larger primers however.

[simgre]

Primers are selling for crazy money in the states at the minute. A friend was beaten on a gun auction site when a thousand small rifle CCI went for $120!

[DedIdick]

Primers are selling for crazy money in the states at the minute. A friend was beaten on a gun auction site when a thousand small rifle CCI went for $120!

Kranks still have them in stock at about £50/1000

[aris]

Kranks are bringing in own brand:

https://www.henrykrank.com/blog/prim...k-primers.html

Possibly made by Prvi.

[kennyc]

Avoid the small rifle murom, they can be soft KVB7 LR are excellent though, I'd have no issue using these, no experience on the S&B but have heard good things.


I would switch as this is a taste of things to come for US manufactured stuff, speaking to when of the head guys at Grafs about .280 brass they are looking at 2 years before some stuff gets in stock and when anything lands it sells almost instantly.

Stick to European kit and hope the yanks don't cotton on to it.

PS if changing primer work up your loads again

I have used the S&B primers, absolutely fine, Muron LR OK, SR I had to back off my loads a grain as I was getting the odd pierced primer, other than that they work fine.

[BigDuncs]

I use MagTech 7.5 exclusively in .223 shooting but on Sunday had to rescue a mate who's Muroms wouldn't ignite. Won't say what he said about them....

I've used over 10k MagTechs and not had one misfire.

[CROWMAN]

I'm getting very wary of loading up my 223 with my recently bought Murom primers.

I think it will only be about 10 rounds I load up and see how they go?
My powder weight is at the lower end of the recommended weight, so hopefully all will be well.

[kennyc]

I'm getting very wary of loading up my 223 with my recently bought Murom primers.

I think it will only be about 10 rounds I load up and see how they go?
My powder weight is at the lower end of the recommended weight, so hopefully all will be well.

I was up at the upper end before I had any problems, and they are still buzzing along with the load reduced a touch

[mag44uk]

I used Murom KVB223 primers in Lapua brass without issue.
Over the years I have used CCI/Federal/Gynex/Winchester/Remington/Magtech/Fiocchi and Murom in a large amount of varied cartridges.
Cant say I recall problems with any.

[harry mac]

Stick to European kit and hope the yanks don't cotton on to it.

We just need to hope that the European manufacturers don't cotton on to the fact that if they export their output to the US, they can virtually name their own price. Some stuff is starting to reappear on the US market, but primers are still like rocking horse 5h17, and going for silly money.

[Triple G]

I think this is just the start, Americans are hoovering up stocks of everything at present.
Just look around, no stock is becoming a way of life regarding reloading components in the U.K.
It will get worse before it gets better.

[Black Beard]

I think it will take another year. There is a huge pent up demand which has not been met. As soon as things become available, they will be bought. People will also buy more to have a stock of components so powder, primers and jacketed bullets will be in short supply.