Valuation please bsf b55 dl

[mrto]

I agree with maximus above 300-350 due to scarcity.

[PhatMan]

tom24,

They are lovely little rifles

Back in the late '70s I had a 0.177" Wischo S55 (BSF S60 ?) - truly a pocket rocket for the time ( a bit let down by the trigger which was a bit on the heavy side, and required a bit of handwork to get it smooth & crisp ).

It made a genuine 10 ft.lb.

I always have a feeling that they set the die for the HW99S ( as HW took over BSF ) ?

Have fun

Best regards

Russ

[mrto]

tom24,

They are lovely little rifles

Back in the late '70s I had a 0.177" Wischo S55 (BSF S60 ?) - truly a pocket rocket for the time ( a bit let down by the trigger which was a bit on the heavy side, and required a bit of handwork to get it smooth & crisp ).

It made a genuine 10 ft.lb.

I always have a feeling that they set the die for the HW99S ( as HW took over BSF ) ?

Have fun

Best regards

Russ

The 99S is the most recent iteration of the HW50 which was introduced in the early 1950's predating the BSF B55 by a couple of decades,and reported to be Herman Weihrauch's favourite production model.If anything BSF would have been influenced by HW rather than the other way around.

[tom24]

sage words as ever
any thanks everyone for the input
tom

[PhatMan]

Hello to All,

Now I know

Have fun

Best regards

Russ

[Geezer]

A quick google suggests that the higher estimates here may not be wrong.

Perhaps because I have two 55s (not Ns), I may overestimate their availability and therefore underestimate what people will pay for a nice one - especially the walnut ones.

Despite their limitations, they are lovely little rifles.

[DM80]

Max I would pay for a mint one would be £250 they are OK but they are average and nothing special.

Dave.

[T 20]

tom24,

They are lovely little rifles

Back in the late '70s I had a 0.177" Wischo S55 (BSF S60 ?) - truly a pocket rocket for the time ( a bit let down by the trigger which was a bit on the heavy side, and required a bit of handwork to get it smooth & crisp ).

It made a genuine 10 ft.lb.

I always have a feeling that they set the die for the HW99S ( as HW took over BSF ) ?

Have fun

Best regards

Russ

The 99S is the most recent iteration of the HW50 which was introduced in the early 1950's predating the BSF B55 by a couple of decades,and reported to be Herman Weihrauch's favourite production model.If anything BSF would have been influenced by HW rather than the other way around.

Hi Russ.

As pointed out by mrto the HW50 was already in existence when Weihrauch took over BSF, the BSF 55 was morphed into the HW85 by Weihrauch, then into the HW95.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....22#post7830322




All the best Mick

[slow_runner]

Hi Russ. As pointed out by mrto the HW50 was already in existence when Weihrauch took over BSF, the BSF 55 was morphed into the HW85 by Weihrauch, then into the HW95.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....22#post7830322
All the best Mick

Nice, very nice Tom

I thought that was the S70 Mick? As far as I know, the S70 also came with a Weihrauch barrel on the later transition model. A bit like BSA, waste not, want not?
How was it, Falke then BSF then swallowed by Weihrauch?
I have got to say that I love the HW85

The S60 is a nice piece too

[Geezer]

Nice, very nice Tom

I thought that was the S70 Mick? As far as I know, the S70 came with a Weihrauch barrel on the later transition model. A bit like BSA, waste not, want not?
How was it, Falke then BSF then swallowed by Weihrauch?
I have got to say that I love the HW85

The S60 is a nice piece too

AFAIK, the transitional BSF/HWs were all full-sized rifles.

Here’s an interesting one:

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2021...-rifle-part-1/

[T 20]

AFAIK, the transitional BSF/HWs were all full-sized rifles.

Here’s an interesting one:

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2021...-rifle-part-1/

Here's a bit more on the Marksman 70 :-

http://anotherairgunblog.blogspot.co...&by-date=false

The trigger reminds me of a HW Perfekt unit ?

[Geezer]

Here's a bit more on the Marksman 70 :-

http://anotherairgunblog.blogspot.co...&by-date=false

The trigger reminds me of a HW Perfekt unit ?

Interesting. Not sure on the trigger.

Also interesting:

“Overall, the gun's light weight and size almost makes me think "Beeman R7"--except it's shooting .177 cal RWS Hobby pellets at 956 fps. That's R1 velocity territory in a much trimmer package.”

I’ve never seen an analysis by someone who understands springers better than me of why these BSFs (including especially the 55) make power so easily, especially compared to their usually bigger and heavier competitors. Some of which had been deliberately designed years later to compete in the 1970s/80s power wars.