Frank Clarke Titan Mk1 Air Pistol.

[JimmieDee]

John, have you compared the length of the Cometa with the Bulldog? The Cometa is 145mm long.

[ccdjg]

John, have you compared the length of the Cometa with the Bulldog? The Cometa is 145mm long.

Jimmie, I assume you are referring to the tiny Cometa Indian that was the subject of an earlier thread on this forum? http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....=cometa+indian

It is also pictured in the Gallery here: https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery....tol/#post-5440

I had no idea how long it was, as only one example has been documented in this country, in an auction catalogue, and as far as I know it gave no dimensions. Many thanks for the new information. Do you own this now? If so it would be great to have more dimension and weight information about it.

Getting back to your original question, my Bulldog measures 140 mm long, and my Tell 2's average 145mm, so would seem that the Bulldog still holds the record.

Cheers,
John

[JimmieDee]

Jimmie, I assume you are referring to the tiny Cometa Indian that was the subject of an earlier thread on this forum? http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....=cometa+indian

It is also pictured in the Gallery here: https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery....tol/#post-5440

I had no idea how long it was, as only one example has been documented in this country, in an auction catalogue, and as far as I know it gave no dimensions. Many thanks for the new information. Do you own this now? If so it would be great to have more dimension and weight information about it.

Getting back to your original question, my Bulldog measures 140 mm long, and my Tell 2's average 145mm, so would seem that the Bulldog still holds the record.

Cheers,
John

Hi John.

I don't own it but I do know who does. It's also 70mm tall if that matters. What's the height of the Bulldog? If you drew a rectangle around both, I wonder which would have the smallest area?

I will ask about the weight for you.

All the best,
Jimmie

[JimmieDee]

Also, the Morse Parlour pistol is only 135mm long. But the Cometa beats it on height and thus area too.

[ccdjg]

Thanks for the additional data. I have just measured the Bulldog and it is105mm high, including the sights,so on an area basis that would make the Cometa the smaller of the two. I was interested to hear that the Morse is 5mm shorter than the Bulldog, so purely on a length basis it takes the topspot. I suspect that the Bulldog might be the lightest of the three, as it is made of zinc alloy rather than cast steel like the others.

Another bit of trivia: the Cometa Indian must have the shortest barrel of any airgun. The Bulldog and the Morse have their barrels running the full length of the gun, but the Indian has to fit the cylinder and barrel in line with each other.. I estimate a barrel length of only about 3cm from the picture of the Indian, using your figures. Almost a transfer port instead of a barrel!

[Garvin]

Jimmie is this H&G Morse measurement taken from the one pictured on your site and is the breech screw genuine on that example?

The reason I ask is the examples in the gallery (here) seem to have a combination screw/cocking hook which presumably makes the OAL longer?

[micky2]

Jimmie is this H&G Morse measurement taken from the one pictured on your site and is the breech screw genuine on that example?

The reason I ask is the examples in the gallery (here) seem to have a combination screw/cocking hook which presumably makes the OAL longer?

With regards to the H&G, all the photos that l have seen had the hook breech screw.

[JimmieDee]

Jimmie is this H&G Morse measurement taken from the one pictured on your site and is the breech screw genuine on that example?

The reason I ask is the examples in the gallery (here) seem to have a combination screw/cocking hook which presumably makes the OAL longer?

The measurements are taken from the muzzle to the back of the handle horizontally along the barrel. So it takes into account the hook as it is longer to the back of the handle. I’ve since sourced a hook breech pin. I’ve just not got round to fitting it yet.