FWB Sledge vs Giss question?

[ptdunk]

I’m assuming people have compared the FWB sledge & Giss rifles for accuracy….is there much if any difference?

I know the Feinwerkbau’s won the 10m war, but I wonder if part of it was psychological, in that the users could see the recoiless mechanism operating on the outside of the gun, whereas with the Giss and Anschutz 250 it was all internal so you maybe had to go on trust that it was doing the business?

The sledge seems a pretty easy concept to understand, and seeing is believing.

Just an idea…

[Geezer]

We did just chat about this 2 weeks ago.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....FWB-experiment

My own view is that, despite my liking for the Giss system, the FWB was a slightly better overall package (general quality, reliability, stock design, trigger feel, after sales support..). It’s incontrovertible that it won the most matches.

It certainly would not have hurt sales/credibility for the FWB that FWB specialised (Sport aside) in 10M target stuff, whereas Diana made everything - tinplate cheapies, pop-outs, mid-price sporters, etc.

And Diana stuck with the break-barrel 66 until they brought out the sidelever 75 in (?) 1978. Given the strong prejudice over the years against break-barrels for ultimate accuracy, that must have helped FWB too.

[ptdunk]

We did just chat about this 2 weeks ago.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....FWB-experiment
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That was about FWB110 vs 150, I just wondered if anyone has compared say a 300s to a 75 for accuracy.

[DrGunn]

I have a 75 and a 300s and they are both capable of more accuracy than I am. I’ve not found either to be partially pellet fussy but suspect that if you tried to do a direct comparison between them you would get different results depending on the pellets used.

[ptdunk]

I have a 75 and a 300s and they are both capable of more accuracy than I am. I’ve not found either to be partially pellet fussy but suspect that if you tried to do a direct comparison between them you would get different results depending on the pellets used.

Thanks,
So if there’s not much in it then as Geezer said maybe there was some bais for FWB as more of a target airgun company than Diana.

I think the FWB sledge is definitely less mysterious than the Giss system from the outside.

Cheers,
Matt

[Garvin]

I don't think you should use the 300S's competition supremacy as a guide to whether it was necessarily a better rife than the 75 because FWB was competing with a fixed-barrel sidelever when the Giss Dianas were all break barrels.

Production of the 75 was delayed such that when it finally came onto the market the FWBs were already solid market leaders and Walther's LGR was ready to give FWB stiff competition. So Diana missed the boat, I think.

[DrGunn]

Thanks,
So if there’s not much in it then as Geezer said maybe there was some bais for FWB as more of a target airgun company than Diana.

I think the FWB sledge is definitely less mysterious than the Giss system from the outside.

Cheers,
Matt

I guess the fact that Feinwerkbau already had a well established track record with the 65 air pistol meant they were already accepted as one of the top manufacturers of match airguns. I also have a FWB 65 and Original model 10 and again they are both superbly accurate.
I personally really like the Giss system, when working well they are amazingly motionless on firing - almost unnervingly so.