A secend E.G Kurbelspanner discovered

[ptdunk]

A vintage enthusiast mate asked if I knew any more info on his .25 Kurbelspanner.

He recognised the markings as Eisenwerk Gaggenau but wanted a bit more info.
Luckily I could put him onto previous posts and some great research by ccdjg to identify it as a 'Eisenwerk Gaggenau no.5 rifle'.
So far this is only the second E.G crank wound gallery gun known.

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ccdjg had found a hidden 'E.G' mark on his own Kurbelspanner which indicated it was probably an early model.....
this one has the crossed pistols markings meaning it may be a later model, dating from after the Eisenwerk Gaggenau trademark was registered. (anyone know when this was?) it features two crossed 'MF' pistols so must date to sometime after 1878.



The crank handle is marked '179' although the font is a bit different. It would be interesting to know if ccdjg's earlier models crank arm is marked and is a similar shape?

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It is in very good condition, and my mate said it produces 4.5 ftlbs with Rhino pellets so is more powerful than normal for these type of gallery guns.

He's a lucky man.


These are the earlier posts:

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....thanks-to-Matt!

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....=kurbelspanner

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....=kurbelspanner

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery....ous/#post-6270



Cheers,
Matt

[Garvin]

Just beautiful Matt, thanks for posting these pics. That's about as clear an EG twin MF pistols symbol as I've ever seen. Great to see an original matched crank handle too.

[ccdjg]

That is great news Matt, that we now have a confirmed Eisenwerke Gaggenau kurbelspanner air rifle that matches closely the catalogue drawing of the EG Model 5, including the crank handle. The gun looks in excellent condition and puts mine to shame. Mine looks as though it has had a hard working life as a fairground gun.

Unfortunately the crank arm on my gun, like the gun itself, has no signs of a serial number. It also has a different profile, but as it has been repaired at some time, with a weld visible halfway along its length, I doubt it started off this shape.










It would be interesting to compare the gear cogs on the end of the handle, mine having seven teeth.





Thanks for another important addition to the Eiesenwerke Gaggenau story.

Cheers,
John

[DAVALI]

Don’t know how to post photographs, but the crank has six teeth,

Dave.

[ptdunk]

Dave's 6 tooth Kurbelspanner crank cog, it is original and he says it meshes with the gears perfectly.

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Also the schnarble nose of the stock is similar to other E.G airguns:
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Incidently along with ccdjg, the crank on my Kurbelspanner also has 7 teeth, and after it broke a machinist mate kindly made me a new one in S.S that would fit into the original collar and crank handle. I'm lucky to know someone who can do it!

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The precision of hand machining on these old gallery guns is impressive.
I'll do a post on that airgun in the future, research is ongoing....

Cheers,
Matt

[Binners]

Great post and photos....

[johnbaz]

Edited under recommendation




John..

[jedburgh]

What a great thread .

[Garvin]

Hi

There's a gent on Facey that keeps Wowing everyone by posting pics of rare guns,


John

Grant Stace is no gent, John. I'd be careful re-posting his pics if I were you. He'll turn on you and fill your inbox with bile in the blink of an eye.

[ccdjg]

Grant Stace is no gent, John. I'd be careful re-posting his pics if I were you. He'll turn on you and fill your inbox with bile in the blink of an eye.

I think I can completely concur with that, Danny.