Last pistol in my top 5 air pistols..thoughts please?

[Garvin]

Matt I think from the list, your 5th all-time pistol Senior for the reason you give.

[Garvin]

My top five:

Postwar:

• FWB 65
• Diana 6 (wood stock)
• Webley Tempest (for nostalgic reasons – it was the first pistol I bought new, in 1982)
• Webley Senior
• Abas Major (I don’t have one – yet!)

Prewar

• Westley Richards 'Highest Possible'
• Straight-grip Webley Senior
• Tell 3
• Haenel 28
• Eisenwerke Gaggenau MF

[Herx77]

Hi all,
pt2 of my 100 yrs of air pistols vids has been filmed (1946-1968) and I need to do the voiceover.

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3 of my top 5 pistols and one possible contender feature in this one so I need to pick the 5th pistol before I narrate this episode.

So far my Top 5 air pistols of all time are (in no particular order and for various reasons):

Webley Hurricane (with Beeman target grips)
FB Record LP2
Crosman 600
FWB90

And contenders for the fifth spot are:
Webley Tempest (best plinking pistol of all time IMO)
Daisy 747 (a great SSP plinker)
Senior (best made pistol ever, but not my favourite shooter)
I would like a webley senior for looking at, have shot one and it didn't go down well.
What do you all recon?
And what would be other people’s top 5 pistols?

Cheers,
Matt

Got to be the Daisy 747,(used in the 80's prior to a FT comp to get the feel of the HW77 rifles mach 1 trigger),and assuming no valving problems. All good, but I am biased. However you can substitute the FWB80 instead!
Like to add a Falcon fn8, got a lot of enjoyment shooting pistol HFT to 25 yds, and a Gamo match grade pistol,for the same and for sheer enjoyment. All these have a target bias.
HERX77 .

[45flint]

My top five:

Postwar:

• FWB 65
• Diana 6 (wood stock)
• Webley Tempest (for nostalgic reasons – it was the first pistol I bought new, in 1982)
• Webley Senior
• Abas Major (I don’t have one – yet!)

Prewar

• Westley Richards 'Highest Possible'
• Straight-grip Webley Senior
• Tell 3
• Haenel 28
• Eisenwerke Gaggenau MF

Hard to argue with this list, would put Hy-Score in for the Tempest. You Brits are tuff!

[ccdjg]

My top five:

Postwar:

• FWB 65
• Diana 6 (wood stock)
• Webley Tempest (for nostalgic reasons – it was the first pistol I bought new, in 1982)
• Webley Senior
• Abas Major (I don’t have one – yet!)

Prewar

• Westley Richards 'Highest Possible'
• Straight-grip Webley Senior
• Tell 3
• Haenel 28
• Eisenwerke Gaggenau MF

Do you mean the Eisenwerke Gaggenau MF pistol, Danny, or the PP? Chalk and cheese!

[Garvin]

Do you mean the Eisenwerke Gaggenau MF pistol, Danny, or the PP? Chalk and cheese!

I did mean the MF, John, which I find uncommonly pretty, but now you mention it, the PP is even prettier.

PP:



MF:

[Geezer]

Does anybody who shoots both spring and gas powered air pistols agree with my conclusions that springers are more accurate than gas in .177 rather than .22 with the reverse being true for C02 powered pistols or is it just me.

Brian

I have a long-held belief that Webley over levers are indeed more accurate in .177” than .22”. And that’s with “normal” pellets, not the high-end match stuff.

Can’t vouch for other types, and not sure at all that the reverse is true for pneumatics or CO2.

[Abasmajor]

I have a long-held belief that Webley over levers are indeed more accurate in .177” than .22”. And that’s with “normal” pellets, not the high-end match stuff.

Can’t vouch for other types, and not sure at all that the reverse is true for pneumatics or CO2.

I can reasonably group most .177 compact, spring powered air pistols in .177 calibre, but can't group nearly as well in .22. With CO2 pistols like my Crosman 150 or Benjamin Rocket , I find .22 to group tighter than any comparable model in .177, but this is obviously only true with standard rather than match pistols which are rarely if ever seen in .22 calibre anyway.

Brian

[I. J.]

Ian …

You win

That FWB 100 looks familiar - serial number 400177? If so it resides with me now. I don't think it would quite make my top 5 though as I also have a 103 which is a bit more refined.

I still own all these FWB pistols and a couple of pcp and CO2 one.

FWB 100 serial no: 415698

ATB
Ian

[Geezer]

I can reasonably group most .177 compact, spring powered air pistols in .177 calibre, but can't group nearly as well in .22. With CO2 pistols like my Crosman 150 or Benjamin Rocket , I find .22 to group tighter than any comparable model in .177, but this is obviously only true with standard rather than match pistols which are rarely if ever seen in .22 calibre anyway.

Brian

Thinking about it, I also have the impression that lower-powered spring rifles shoot better groups (ctc) in .177”. The difference may start to narrow or equalise around 6-7 ft-lbs, and by the time they reach 10, they are either definitely equal or .177” is edging ahead.

In a similar vein, my most accurate .22” recoiling spring pistol (when I do my thing and help it so it’s thing) is a BSA Scorpion. It outshoots my .22” Diana LP5. But not my .177” Diana 5s.

Very unscientific though.

[ptdunk]

I did mean the MF, John, which I find uncommonly pretty, but now you mention it, the PP is even prettier.

PP:



MF:

I think that PP pistol really is a thing of beauty.
If I had one that would be on the list.

Matt

[ptdunk]

Still undecided on that 5th spot, think it’ll be the Senior.
Very interesting feedback gentleman, many thanks

Kind of wish I had an Abas Major and an E.G PP pistol, but they’re both on the long term wants list anyway. .

I like all my pistols, but a few are a bit ‘magic’ for various reasons, and those are my favourites.

I’ll refer to it as ‘my top 5 favourite air pistols’ in future to allow for some discretion on my choices

Cheers,
Matt

[DrGunn]

I still own all these FWB pistols and a couple of pcp and CO2 one.

FWB 100 serial no: 415698

ATB
Ian

You have a very nice collection!
I must have your FWB 100s long lost twin, even the heat shrink on the cocking lever looks the same:

[I. J.]

You have a very nice collection!
I must have your FWB 100s long lost twin, even the heat shrink on the cocking lever looks the same:

Uncanny.

[ccdjg]

I did mean the MF, John, which I find uncommonly pretty, but now you mention it, the PP is even prettier.

PP:



MF:

I think "pretty" would be a more appropriate term for the Eisenwerke No 1, which must have been designed for the tiny handed airgunner, who wanted to protect his nail varnish. The PP and MF deserve a more butch description than that. Perhaps " elegant", or "handsome" ?