BSA Scorpion pistol (versus HW45)

[Shed tuner]

you could buy BSA fibre optic sights; I retro fitted them to my scorpion for pistol HFT

[Antoni]

you could buy BSA fibre optic sights; I retro fitted them to my scorpion for pistol HFT

At the risk of losing your competitive edge, would you divulge your source of said fibre optic fore-sights and rear-sights? I'm sure I'd be able to shoot more accurately with the Scorpion if it had them. Shame it would be non-standard but that's how it goes. I'd keep the original sights and might even be able to buy an unmolested standard fore-sight element from the same place...

My eyes focus well enough for anything except reading. I use my computer monitor glasses for iron-sight shooting, these are different from my reading glasses. I'm seriously thinking abt asking the opticians for a pair of glasses that make the iron sights just a bit less in focus and the target just a bit more in focus. Probably useful for other purposes too. Cost? - I'd suggest a lot less than keen airgunners spend.

Another point is I am left eyed. Archers told me about this. You look at an object in the distance and form a mask with your hands allowing both eyes to see it. Then you move your hands so that only one eye can see the object. You will automatically select the eye that you are eyed. My right eye is fine but has astigmatism. Left eye almost none. That's lucky. Maybe I should nip down to Boots and try some non-prescription (not astigmatism corrected) el-cheapo glasses to see whether they might help with the iron sights - glowing or not.

Scope sights? That's cheating.

[Antoni]

How?

I can't find an owner's manual or any info on the net but have read that the trigger is adjustable.

Can anyone send a link to the owners manual?

I can accept the trigger as it is, I'm doing well with it now, but it's just a bit too light for a pistol for me.

[Shed tuner]

when i bought the fibre optics, this was probably 15 years ago... im afraid i can't recall, but they might have been a bsa offering..

[Troubledshooter]

How?

I can't find an owner's manual or any info on the net but have read that the trigger is adjustable.

Can anyone send a link to the owners manual?

I can accept the trigger as it is, I'm doing well with it now, but it's just a bit too light for a pistol for me.

What series Scorpion do you have, PA RA PB RB ?
They are all much the same but I have several different versions ranging from '73 to '77.
I'll need an email address.

[Antoni]

What series Scorpion do you have, PA RA PB RB ?
They are all much the same but I have several different versions ranging from '73 to '77.
I'll need an email address.

It's RB49116.

My e-mail a/d is g4zre somewhere close to talktalk point net. I'd appreciate a manual because I've got them for nearly everything here. Got a radio which is a bit un-intuitive. The downloaded manual explained a couple of things.

[Antoni]

Using a "Little Samson" spring balance probably intended for weighing caught fish, along with a loop of string I measured the trigger force of the Scorpion. The string loop naturally acted vertically centrally on the trigger. There are three ways to cock the trigger.

Just break the action and re-close: 1½ pounds force

Break the action and quarter cock so that the auto safety activates, then allow the spring back to rest and close the action The click is louder but still: 1½ pounds force

Load and fire the pistol: just a smidgeon [smidgeon<tad<dab] less than 1½ pounds force.

The troubled shooter kindly e-mailed me the manual (thank you) which states that the standard Scorpion trigger weight is 1½ pounds force and describes how to adjust it if desired. If Messrs BSA said it should be that, it will stay at that.

For comparison checked the HW45. I'd adjusted it just by feel when I first bought it: 2¼ pounds force whether loaded and fired or just trigger-cocked.

Who'd have thunk 'light as a feather' was as high a force as that?

I'm on a roll here... for the gas blow-back pistol I had to use a bigger spring balance: 6 pounds force

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[Antoni]

Not much to do today so got the old Tenma sound level meter out in the garden. The measurements were taken 1½ feet up and 4 feet from the meter to the muzzle. dB peak-hold and A-weighted.

Scorpion pistol ~5.3 FtLb .22
101.5 100.4
With cocking aid 104.5 104.5

HW45 ~4.9 FtLb. Sold as a .22 but fitted with a Weihrauch .177 barrel.
105.8 105.9

HW80 ~10 FtLb .177
106.8 107.0

Beeman P17 ~2.2 FtLb Single pump pneumatic .177
100.4 100.9 102.3

Surprised that the Scorpion's cocking aid makes the gun significantly louder.