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    Prewar machining excellence

    I just acquired a prewar FLZ rifle and I just noticed a machined screw that was contoured to the tube to make it almost disappear except for the slot. Curious have any of you seen this in another airgun? I’m sure its not unique but I can’t remember seeing it anywhere?

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    Very nice touch, on a very nice rifle.
    I wonder why they didn't provide the same treatment to the other screws, too?

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    A quality rifle indeed.

    Another nice touch is the fact that the rear sight blade runs in a slot that is blind ( doesnt run all the way to the bottom of the base ), which is different to most of the other turret rear sight's that you see. Another mark of machining quality. I bet it was an expensive rifle in its day.

    Very interesting thing.

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    that is a nice touch,any wear in the breech would need taking up with a shim.these look very nice rifles,top quality old school craftmanship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakey View Post
    A quality rifle indeed.

    Another nice touch is the fact that the rear sight blade runs in a slot that is blind ( doesnt run all the way to the bottom of the base ), which is different to most of the other turret rear sight's that you see. Another mark of machining quality. I bet it was an expensive rifle in its day.

    Very interesting thing.

    Lakey
    Look at the machining on the front sight, the little bevel on the post! Crazy detail that few would ever notice? Machining art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    Look at the machining on the front sight, the little bevel on the post! Crazy detail that few would ever notice? Machining art.

    Love the attention to detail. Very nice indeed.



    Lakey

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    I love those details too. Especially where the work is done on several planes - and so I imagine must be very complex to do without CNC hardware.

    Such as this pre-WW1 Diana trigger block:





    And the front sight on this postwar HW35 1st series.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    Look at the machining on the front sight, the little bevel on the post! Crazy detail that few would ever notice? Machining art.

    From an era when there was pride in your product rather than built to a price.
    Standards of living for the working man being much poorer giving cheap labour helped enormously

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey_s View Post
    From an era when there was pride in your product rather than built to a price.
    Standards of living for the working man being much poorer giving cheap labour helped enormously
    It's Just a steel casting, like the prewar BSA units, or an old Williams /host of other makers .granted a nicely detailed one but not a machined part I would say personally, the skill would have been by the pattern / die maker.

    The breech blocks on say militias and other older German stuff are also often forgings, giving various shapes which can't be got by machine tools in a sensible price / time, but hand finished in a time when time was cheaper to some extent.

    In the 1920. a BSA Standard would be a weeks wages for a time served fitter / turner, so in todays money maybe £450-500 take home a week.

    So looking at the bonkers prices of some top end PCP's and even TX's and Prosports, guns actually cost more now!

    ATB, Ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I just acquired a prewar FLZ rifle and I just noticed a machined screw that was contoured to the tube to make it almost disappear except for the slot. Curious have any of you seen this in another airgun? I’m sure its not unique but I can’t remember seeing it anywhere?

    Probably just flashed over by linisher (after being tightened into the action) pre bluing, a simple and quick process if you think about it, means the screw needed to be kept in the action it fitted though afterwards.



    ATB, ED

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