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    Titan spring not fitting BSA Standard

    Any thoughts I bought a Titan spring #1 for a replacement for a broken spring in my 1914 BSA Standard. Was told it would fit. It is just slightly too big around to fit into the piston. It’s very close. Thinking I could grind a little flat around the coil but would be time consuming. Anyone know of a spring that would fit easily? Below the half spring that was not broken.

    Last edited by 45flint; 09-01-2023 at 06:22 PM.

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    For a one piece replacement I think a standard replacement Airsporters spring could do the job but it might be a little long so it may need a few coils cut off. Then it will of course need the cut surfaces grinding & polishing. Some have said a Meteor spring can work too, not tried that but a cut down Airsporter spring fitted a BSA Improved mod. D, after a few coils were cut off.

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    I think if you grind the outside of the spring you'll knacker it! Find one that fits and sell the other on here.
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    As noted above, do not try to grind down the spring OD - that would be an invitation to breakage.
    Springs in a couple of my old full-size BSA's were about .785" OD, so something that size or a tad less should be good. You might try to confirm dimensions with your supplier before taking the plunge.

    Don R.

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    Hi Steve,

    What is the free length of the half spring you have which is not broken?I have looked through my old BSA spares and find I have a few half springs with 17 turns, one measuring

    4 1/2" long and one at 4 1/4" long in nice straight condition.

    I can send one of both to you if you think you can use them.Outside diameter is 0.815"

    Regards,

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snodgrass View Post
    Hi Steve,

    What is the free length of the half spring you have which is not broken?I have looked through my old BSA spares and find I have a few half springs with 17 turns, one measuring

    4 1/2" long and one at 4 1/4" long in nice straight condition.

    I can send one of both to you if you think you can use them.Outside diameter is 0.815"

    Regards,

    Chris
    Appreciate the offer but my spring is 4 3/4 outside diameter about .75”. I ended up making a short second spring and did what everyone said not to - ground the outside to fit. Someone over here uses HW50 springs for his and I looked at the specs and my spring wire is thicker than the HW. I just shot it for the first time today and got 10 foot pounds which is more than fine with me. I liked the idea of keeping with 2 springs. If I find the spring breaks, these rifles are so easy to work on I will just start again. Given how much I shoot I bet I’ll be fine?
    Last edited by 45flint; 10-01-2023 at 05:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draitzer View Post
    As noted above, do not try to grind down the spring OD - that would be an invitation to breakage.
    Springs in a couple of my old full-size BSA's were about .785" OD, so something that size or a tad less should be good. You might try to confirm dimensions with your supplier before taking the plunge.

    Don R.
    I found a post here on the dimensions of Titan springs in mm. On another forum a knowledgeable BSA fellow told me to get a HW50 spring. That corresponds to a Titan #7 which has a little less OD just about where you say? The length looks right as well so maybe I won’t even have to cut it. I doubt it will be as powerful as the originals but should be fine for what I do. Hope repeating the info below helps another BSA traveler. At least my 2 spring experiment showed me there are no other issues with the rifle.

    NO- OD - ID - Wire- Coils- Length

    01- 21.0- 14.5- 3.2- 31- 280
    02- 22.7- 15.5- 3.6- 30- 291
    03- 20.8- 14.7- 3.2- 34- 304
    04- 22.6- 15.6- 3.6- 28- 252
    05- 19.0- 13.1- 3.0- 32- 290
    06- 19.7- 13.3- 2.9- 39- 341
    07- 20.0- 13.8- 3.3- 30- 255
    08- 20.0- 13.8- 3.3- 34- 295
    09- 21.0- 14.7- 3.3- 27- 280
    10- 21.0- 14.8- 3.1- 27- 230
    11- 18.8- 12.8- 3.0- 31- 230
    12- 18.9- 12.6- 2.9- 36- 295
    13- 19.4- 13.0- 3.1- 39- 340
    14- 22.7- 15.4- 3.6- 37- 358
    15- 17.5- 12.1- 2.3- 33- 254
    Last edited by 45flint; 11-01-2023 at 01:24 PM.

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    Could you enlighten as to who it was who told you that it would fit ?

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