.22 rimfire target pistols

[McTrucky]

I have owned/used Morini, Pardini, Walter, etc multishot target pistols, and currently have a single shot morini long arm here in the UK. Unfortunately Pardini etc do not make UK legal multishots.

I am thinking about buying one of the UK legal .22 multishots, both for some fun shooting PP1 type events, but also semi seriously for ISSF standard pistol and rapid fire (accepting they don't fit in the control box, so cannot be used in proper competition - which probably explains the absense of match grade options).

Anyone been there and done that? Is it a futile exercise or are GSGs, Walther Colt Trophies, etc actually half decent? Browning Buck Mark is another option, but from what little relevant info I can find on the Internet I am leaning towards the Walther Colt Gold Cup Trophy.

Will be iron sights only, not interested in red dots etc.

Any thoughts anyone?

[JB101]

Having used to shoot 22 pistol in the leagues back in the day I went on to try out the newer lbp 22’s.
I have had a gsg1911& a grand power k22 and moved them on as not accurate enough (IMO) I have also tried a few others and the only one I would consider accurate enough to own would be a buckmark .

Hope this helps
Regards
James

[clueless]

I have a KMR and it’s undoubtedly the best lbp I have owned and I have tried and owned all currently available.. The cheaper end are fun plinkers but accuracy isn’t up to much on any of them with the exception of the buckmark which is accurate but about as much a pistol as a vegetarian bacon..

My KMR will put a full mag through a five pence size group at 25 yards..this was from a ransom rest as I can’t shoot that well

[McTrucky]

Thanks for the replies.
KMR... at £1750 definitely falls into the "would want to try one properly before splashing the cash" bracket.
Buckmark - don't see many advertised, but a good friend who has one (also has a GSG as well as proper target Pardinis) suggested the Buckmark would be the best option. He said of his GSG that it was surprisingly accurate , but awful sights and trigger took away any pretension of being a target pistol. Unfortunately he lives 500 miles away, so I can't go and look at his toys.

All the reviews I have read on forums and so on suggests the Colt Gold Cup Trophy (Walther) is more accurate that the GSG, and with effort the trigger can be made to be quite good (but no where near proper target pistol territory).

I am more than happy to do some smithing myself to try to improve the trigger, but if the gun cannot hold a two inch group at 25m, then it isn't for me.

At £600, the colt might be my best option, and if it didn't work out, maybe reach for a KMR then. But if a Buckmark was available at the right time/place ....

Problem I have is no where to go and try them. Hopefully get my variation back in a couple of weeks, but no point in rushing things before then.

[rapidboy1]

Grip being a big part of SP / RF, a decent aftermarket solution might be easier found for a 1911 platform than a buckmark ?

Does a LBP have to be manufactured as a LBR or could a regular target pistol be converted ?

[McTrucky]

Grip being a big part of SP / RF, a decent aftermarket solution might be easier found for a 1911 platform than a buckmark ?

Does a LBP have to be manufactured as a LBR or could a regular target pistol be converted ?

Grips, yes. I have no idea about Buckmark grips, but do think I could mold/carve an option for the 1911. I had a Delta Elite before the ban, and that was similar to the 1911 I believe.

Conversions - this is a can of worms.... If a gun is imported as section 5 it cannot be converted to section 1. It can be imported as parts, and if not assembled prior to modification could be built as a section 1. However, we spoke with a manufacturer back in the day, and they had local laws which meant they had to declare/register all gun types they made, so the parts are controlled and so on...
A Buckmark Section 1 rifle is a derivation of the pistol - with some extra wood bolted on, and a longer barrel. So if you took a Buckmark rifle, and cut the barrel to 300mm it would still be a rifle. If you then replaced the foot long stock with a foot long rod.... is it now a pistol or a rifle....?

It seems a mockery that there is no definition of a pistol/handgun, and that a cartridge gun must have a barrel of 12" and an over all length of 24", and then to distinguish between pistols and rifles for licensing purposes when they conform to the same rules on dimensions.