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    Tinkering with a Beeman P17

    Picked up a used P17 and fiddled with it to see if I could squeeze some more power out of it, starting with the following modifications:

    1) cleaned up the valve stem, installed a harder o-ring and drilled out the transfer port to 3.8mm from 2.5mm

    2) added a Delrin sleeve to the chamber to reduce volume and increase compression

    3) machined an old Crosman barrel to fit at 9.75"

    https://i.imgur.com/jy6kICT.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/7bwz7jT.jpg

    Here are the results:

    https://i.imgur.com/hoXSrJs.jpg

    Incremental increases in power except for the increased compression that actually reduced performance, contrary to some results reported elsewhere.

    My original intention was to convert it to 0.22" and rather embarrassingly that's what I thought I was doing with the long barrel, in my mind it was a 0.22" I had in the scrap box and I didn't bother checking

    I did however have a spare Crosman 2240 barrel and machined it to fit, here it is between the original and the long 0.177" barrels:

    https://i.imgur.com/jNu8pg8.jpg

    Test data for the 0.22" compared to the original 0.177":

    https://i.imgur.com/xSDKOCP.jpg

    25% more energy and pretty consistent.

    I also did a test comparing closing the pump lever slowly and quickly, the latter is slightly more powerful and consistent:

    https://i.imgur.com/jtuq1Wu.jpg

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    sounds like the best option is just to add the longer barrel

    Probably not worth it for indoor work, but if plinking past 10 yards, the extra little oomph would be beneficial.
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Is there any room left at the end of the cylinder after the compression stroke? I had seen online about adding material to the end of the piston on the FAS 6004 to increase compression on SSP's, some had used epoxy resin but I used three layers of aluminium tape on my Sig Sauer ASP Supertarget, which has the same powerplant.

    It is a fine balance to avoid causing it to dead-head and strain the mechanism by adding to much, but it did make a definite improvement to the fps. I also swapped the piston and breech o-rings for x-rings, but saw no benefit.

    The other risk is making the last part of the stroke really difficult, but I don't think the P17 needs any MORE resistance in that area!
    Too many guns, or not enough time?

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    Nice Mod, hoping to get a P17 myself
    We’re all Wednesday aren’t we.

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