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    Quote Originally Posted by venoman View Post
    I think you will find the Gamo Coyote is just a rebadged BSA PCP that is also made in the UK along with the Gamo.
    I'd already said that in my post before...

    Quote Originally Posted by joffy View Post
    I think the only thing on the gamo that's bsa is the barrel
    Nope, you'd be wrong, it's a BSA action with a Gamo CAT trigger and their own stock design.

    So if Gamo can sell a decent PCP at budget friendly prices thats been made in the UK - why can't AA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvey_s View Post
    I'd already said that in my post before...



    Nope, you'd be wrong, it's a BSA action with a Gamo CAT trigger and their own stock design.

    So if Gamo can sell a decent PCP at budget friendly prices thats been made in the UK - why can't AA?
    Why would the stick a chappy trigger unit on a bsa action ......commonsense is missing somewhere
    them there springer's are soooooo addictive

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    It'll be interesting to see who gets the benefit of the lower Indian prices. Will AA split it with UK customers??? (doubt it!) For info, the NX200 Athena Classic with wood stock retails for £157 in India. Factory gate price obviously a lot less. Wait & see!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joffy View Post
    Why would the stick a chappy trigger unit on a bsa action ......commonsense is missing somewhere
    Nothing wrong with the CAT trigger which an M2.5x9mm screw doesn't sort out.
    It's then a very decent trigger...

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    So if Gamo can sell a decent PCP at budget friendly prices thats been made in the UK - why can't AA?[/QUOTE]

    Maybe because one is a "cheap" gun and the other "premium". It's the same marketing BS as in the motorcycle market. You get what you pay for up to a point (example old SMK up to Gamo/Cometa), then the BS takes over.
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    Thumbs down

    Air arms had a budget uk gun in their stable once upon a time .......bought out falcon run it into the ground and shut it down ...... history doesn't lie
    them there springer's are soooooo addictive

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    I can't see why AA just don't scale down the Pro Elite and reproduce that, bung it in a pretty Prosport looking stock and leave off the fish scale checkering and we're all happy.
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    Quote Originally Posted by joffy View Post
    Air arms had a budget uk gun in their stable once upon a time .......bought out falcon run it into the ground and shut it down ...... history doesn't lie
    Didn't BMW do the same to Rover
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    Quote Originally Posted by joffy View Post
    Air arms had a budget uk gun in their stable once upon a time .......bought out falcon run it into the ground and shut it down ...... history doesn't lie
    Not quite correct. They didnt have any choice. The owner and kingpin of the Karachi, Pakistan based subcontractor of most of the components passed away and supplies dried up. It would not have been economical for the components to be made in the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwayjames View Post
    Not quite correct. They didnt have any choice. The owner and kingpin of the Karachi, Pakistan based subcontractor of most of the components passed away and supplies dried up. It would not have been economical for the components to be made in the UK
    Areyou sure that is what happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by averageplinker View Post
    Areyou sure that is what happened?
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    I’m my opinion if they’re machined well and they use a lothar Walther barrel then they could end up okay but if they charge the thick end of £700 for a unknown Indian barrel aswell as action I think they will struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwayjames View Post
    Not quite correct. They didnt have any choice. The owner and kingpin of the Karachi, Pakistan based subcontractor of most of the components passed away and supplies dried up. It would not have been economical for the components to be made in the UK
    Forgive me for asking because I know nothing about these sort of matters, can we really not produce components over here for a reasonable price, is it materials that cost more or the machining process? I would have thought by the time shipping costs and taxes are added then it would even out?
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    Quote Originally Posted by look no hands View Post
    Forgive me for asking because I know nothing about these sort of matters, can we really not produce components over here for a reasonable price, is it materials that cost more or the machining process? I would have thought by the time shipping costs and taxes are added then it would even out?
    Labour and overhead costs are a lot higher here

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekm View Post
    Maybe because one is a "cheap" gun and the other "premium". It's the same marketing BS as in the motorcycle market. You get what you pay for up to a point (example old SMK up to Gamo/Cometa), then the BS takes over.
    What you mean is they can't do it - because whatever happens you need it to be an accurate performer and if they do that people might well question why the next step in their chain is nearly twice the price for very little added improvement.

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