Air Arms Precihole Indian Partnership

[oldskoolzzz]

Indian in origin.
They had a break barrel rammer that does 20Joule, don't see the point myself.
They do a spring version, supposed to be better quality than the budget offerings.

Air Arms are not branding these guns, just the importer and distributer.

They haven't got any. They don't know the prices.

Crikey 20J Rammer I’m still getting over a sub 12 Fenman hernia

2 years from now I wouldn’t be surprised to see most of there range all rebranded as AA models

Or at least a Break Barrel Indian/AA collaboration I’d put money on it

[Hsing-ee]

TX200 Hunter Carbine Beech right handed is £719.00. Add in a reasonable scope mounts and accessories and 20 tins of pellets and that is £1000.

It's rather a lot to invest in a sport if you are not sure you'll get serious about it.

So a budget line of springers might bring in more customers to AA in time.

I don't really like the name Precise Hole but thats because I've been in Scotland for a while. Also the rifles have that 'trying too hard' look to them that you don't get with HW or Diana. Hmm.

[Yokel]

Precihole manufacture the sights fitted to Air Arms MPR Precision 10 metre air rifles, the sights let down the gun and are not worth purchasing/need replacing asap.
I'm also into tractor restoration, many replacement non genuine parts are made in India and are a pain to make fit and are avoided by most enthusiasts for this reason.
I'd be surprised if guns made in India are any better.

[Geezer]

Indian guns of any kind (like their cars and motorbikes) haven’t historically had a great reputation. To put it mildly.

Of course we should keep an open mind, and maybe AA’s involvement will bear dividends in terms of quality.

But not holding my breath.

[harvey_s]

Meh... just a ploy to keep AA rifles in their market position selling over-priced 'high end' guns and 'special editions' to those easily impressed by such gimmicks.

Meaning they'd find it difficult to get market share in the budget end where Gamo and Chinese PCP's dominate without devaluing their own products.
So instead they'll just re-sell the Pie-Hole range of guns...

Sorry AA, not interested...I'd rather buy a Gamo that was made by a British company here thanks.

[Anothermiss]

Meh... just a ploy to keep AA rifles in their market position selling over-priced 'high end' guns and 'special editions' to those easily impressed by such gimmicks.

Meaning they'd find it difficult to get market share in the budget end where Gamo and Chinese PCP's dominate without devaluing their own products.
So instead they'll just re-sell the Pie-Hole range of guns...

Sorry AA, not interested...I'd rather buy a Gamo that was made by a British company here thanks.

Well... I wouldn't buy BSA/Gamo stuff cos I know it's crap. Now I won't buy be buying new AA stuff cos I have reasonable grounds to believe it's crap. I wait to be proven wrong. (I would like to state on record I have been well impressed, historically by 2x s200s that I've owned and an s310. I've never been impressed by anything bsa that I've owned)
I hope this isn't the first step in an AA sellout.

[harvey_s]

Well... I wouldn't buy BSA/Gamo stuff cos I know it's crap. Now I won't buy be buying new AA stuff cos I have reasonable grounds to believe it's crap. I wait to be proven wrong. (I would like to state on record I have been well impressed, historically by 2x s200s that I've owned and an s310. I've never been impressed by anything bsa that I've owned)
I hope this isn't the first step in an AA sellout.

We have very different experiences obviously.
I have an AA S200 and a Gamo Coyote Tactical...and the Gamo is super little rifle even compared to the S200 (which isn't actually an AA's product - its CZ) and its far from being crap.
There are hundreds of Phox, Coyote, GX40, GX250 owners out there as well who I know rate theirs too.

[joffy]

Indian guns of any kind (like their cars and motorbikes) haven’t historically had a great reputation. To put it mildly.

Of course we should keep an open mind, and maybe AA’s involvement will bear dividends in terms of quality.

But not holding my breath.

At least the old Royal Enfields big singles look nice unlike some of the guns the make

[MartynB]

At least the old Royal Enfields big singles look nice unlike some of the guns the make

My thought as well watching the video, one PCP with bottle or tube, barrel looked to be quite high making the gun look 'deep'

[sebbo200]

Indian guns of any kind (like their cars and motorbikes) haven’t historically had a great reputation. To put it mildly.

Of course we should keep an open mind, and maybe AA’s involvement will bear dividends in terms of quality.

But not holding my breath.

I'm on a Slight tangent, but yes early 90's Enfield motorcycles were poor, however jump to the last 5-6 years the Enfield name is right up there with sales, and the Himalayan dominated the light adventure market

So much so that other manufacturers are building models for that cheaper than b#w GS territory

Would be a shame to see a classic make disappear into the ethos like AA, but I suppose with far eastern models starting at £2-300 which for most will do the job, it was always going to move that way

[Mach 1.5]

Do you think AA are pricing themselves out the market and need a cheap brand to balance the books..the price of the TX and Pro Sport are getting a little expensive compared to their nearest rival and that new PCP at £3200 ain't going to be a best seller in these days. Mach 1.5