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    Bearing Surface Brinelling.

    Always a chance this happening with bearings under load.


    Brinelling /ˈbrɪnəlɪŋ/ is the permanent indentation of a hard surface. It is named after the Brinell scale of hardness, in which a small ball is pushed against a hard surface at a preset level of force, and the depth and diameter of the mark indicates the Brinell hardness of the surface. Brinelling is permanent plastic deformation of a surface, and usually occurs while two surfaces in contact are stationary (such as rolling elements and the raceway of a bearings) and the material yield strength has been exceeded.
    Brinelling is undesirable, as the parts often mate with other parts in very close proximity. The very small indentations can quickly lead to improper operation, such as chattering or excess vibration, which in turn can accelerate other forms of wear, such as spalling and ultimately, failure of the bearing.


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    I have some thrust bearings both ball and roller, I have often considered trying this in a top hat.

    One thought I had if the spring becomes slack under recoil, the bits may fall out of the bearing.
    Repariere nicht, was nicht kaputtist.

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    I did try it, and it does "work", but I couldn't detect any advantage over just a couple of hard steel slip washers and a dab of moly... on the downside however, their physical constraint mean they are tricky to fit to many smaller clylinder bore guns, plus there are the concerns about long term reliability.
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    And spring room .

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    Airmasters were fitting these in the 1980’s, I have a few of their tuned HW77’s rifles with them fitted
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    How would a ptfe washer sandwiched between two steel washers fare?
    The more I think I know, the more I realise the less I know.

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    I've just bought a txsr with one of these bearings fitted between the rear guide and the trigger block. It does shoot very well. Would it be advisable to remove it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dornfelderliebe View Post
    How would a ptfe washer sandwiched between two steel washers fare?
    You'd be better with two PTFE washers between two steel washers. The coefficient of friction of PTFE on PTFE is similar to ice on ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickG View Post
    And spring room .
    true....
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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