Repro pellets box's revisited

[ptdunk]

I know this has been discussed before (eg: https://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread...boxes-and-tins)
But since doing the vid on Dario's pellet box & tin collection I've got a new appreciation of the issue and it seems there are more examples of convincing repro box's (fakes) available then ever, some purposefully pre aged:

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I don't see the point....What pleasure do people get from owning these? The mountain of fake Bulldog pellet box's fills me with dread.

I appreciate some people have made reproduction pistol and pellet box's that have a mark or something to distinguish them from originals which is great, but the wholesale mass production of ones that are trying to look as genuine as possible leaves a bad taste.
To me the whole point in acquiring a rare pellet box is the pleasure you get from knowing how rare it is and enjoying how nice some of them look. I really don't see the point in a fake Bulldog pellet box. If you can't find a real one then don't have one! (just my opinion, I'm sure others will disagree)

There was a great thread on how to ID repro pistol box's: https://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread...oxes&p=8164379

But what are things to look out for when looking at repro (is fake too strong a word?) pellet box's? Dario says a lot of repro's have rounded edges to the folds....Should we be walking round arms fairs with little UV torches? Unfortunately they aren't all made from old cornflakes box's

On a well know coastal shops website (no offence intended, I do like that shop) there were 27 different types of repro pellet box's and 7 originals. Many of the repros had blurb saying they were great because you couldn't tell they were reproductions...once these are in circulation it can only muddy the waters.

I know this has been discussed before but for the record knowing what to look out for may help future or new collectors.

Cheers,
Matt

[Evostu]

Ah protek lol
If you need a box to complete a boxed pistol set then that's the only reason I'd buy a fake box,although I'd much rather have the original
The same mor their range of fake webley pistol boxes they do,again I'd much rather have the original but sometimes it's impossible to get,especially for something like a mk2 target
My biggest concern is seeing several pistols for sale I a repo box but the advert stating its in an original box

Same as my cased webley senior,it was missing an oil can and the chances of getting an original are virtually 0,if one could be found it would be £600+ so I settled for a decent fake to fill the hole in the case

[isobar]

i share your concern and sentiments regarding repro/fake because as times pass who will what is original and what is repro.even a seller won't know.

[BadPigeon]

Its heart breaking to see these reproduced as aged boxes and looking rather well made as we all know these will be soon up for sale as originals all over the place. In fact they already are for sale on a popular online market place.

Unless we can examine any newish looking cardboard vintage pellet box in person i would be inclined to think they are fake. This sort of kills the original improved bulldogs online sales along with all the others in light of these many reproductions. The prices of some of the pellet boxes sold recently i suppose proved just too much to resist for the fakes industry. However i am very surprised that a well respected shop is the source of these fakes.

I would much rather live in hope of finding an original box then buy a repro but then again thats me, also encouraging the fakes makes finding an original box hard due to the loss of trust in this niche market. I for one wont sell any more of mine duplicate vintage cardboard pellet boxes purchased as part of collections as the prices are rapidly hitting the rock bottom for the cardboard the tins are fine.

[Josie & John]

I agree Matt.

I just don't see the point of a repro box and after a few years of wear, it will make identification difficult. Some repro boxes I was given are marked as such on the inside flaps but I don't know if all are and I don't think the Webley pistol boxes are.

John

[ggggr]

I agree Matt.

I just don't see the point of a repro box and after a few years of wear, it will make identification difficult. Some repro boxes I was given are marked as such on the inside flaps but I don't know if all are and I don't think the Webley pistol boxes are.

John

As you probably know, Chris Hough had some repro pellet boxes done. As these started to appear on the bay as "Genuine", he stamps them inside with "Reproduction" (I think).