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    The bigger the calibre the less power the spring or ram needs to make to get it to 12 ft/lbs . So if you down size it from .25 you'll get even less power. This is because power is to do with muzzle velocity and the weight of the pellet, the velocity needs to go up for the smaller calibres, which requires more from a ram or spring.

    If it's a rammer & down on power then the gas ram needs more air in it, for which you'll need a "Slim Jim" pump kit from Best Fittings, but that will cost more than twice a spring & delrin guide kit, that is you don't need a new piston.

    I've got a Welsh Willy kit in one of my rifles & a TBT kit in another, both a big improvement over standard, but the WW Dagda spring does seem less harsh than the Weihrauch one.

    You'll probably have to size the spring to suit the calibre, esp for .25 as may need a coil or so removing. It's not hard but you need a blowtorch to collapse the end of the spring & something to dress the cut end like an angle grinder.

    The other possibility is that the piston seal and or breech seal(s) are shot.
    Last edited by Waddy; 11-04-2024 at 04:53 PM.
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    The seals are ok, guess it's the ram, I think from the sounds of things I'd be quite happy with getting it back to a Springer possibly, as the rams a sealed unit.
    I'd just like it ticking over around the 10ftlb mark which should be nice and smooth in .25 I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by steviebee View Post
    The seals are ok, guess it's the ram, I think from the sounds of things I'd be quite happy with getting it back to a Springer possibly, as the rams a sealed unit.
    I'd just like it ticking over around the 10ftlb mark which should be nice and smooth in .25 I guess
    I've got two .25's , a rammer and a springer & try to keep the power above 11 because of the ballistic issue with the heavy pellets & low muzzle velocity, the hold over with heavier pellets is quite large even at 25 yards.
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    To my mind, yes, it would be nice to move away from the sealed ram to conventional coil spring, with all the benefits of ease of tweakability etc.

    Just a quick one, and I don't know much about these at all, but did some of these have the tighter (.243?) barrel fitted that might also contribute to lower outputs with some .25 pellets?
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    The ram can be recharged. Not with a home pump though.
    Replacement rams can be had.
    You would needs few bits if your going back to a spring.
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