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Can anyone identify this gun please (more piucs to follow).
I know it's an Enfield. but that's it. Pretty shocking state, but a mate of mine wants to put a stock on it and mount it on his wall.
The barrel diameter is 9mm.
Also, would it be legal for him to do this.
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A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.
looks like a lever action falling block design...like a greener.
if he has no deact. cert i'd think twice
Yup, tis a martini action something or other. If it's made by Enfield, it could be a military training rifle.
What's the bore like? You say it's 9mm, is it possible it could have been corroded out to this diameter?
Is the barrel rifled or smoothbore (if you can tell), is it possible to look at the breech face and tell if it's centrefire or rimfire?
Can you tell if it takes a (pretty much) parallel walled case, or a necked down type?
I take it you can't find the calibre stamped on it anywhere
Your mate can keep it if it's an obsolete / unobtainable calibre - there's a list of these somewhere, although I'm struggling to find it.
The army used a lot of falling block / martini action rifles for training in the wars - these were chambered in the (now obsolete) straight (ish) walled, centrefire .310 cadet calibre.
Guns of this type were also popular in "rook and rabbit" calibres again straight walled centrefire 7mm ish sizes, such as the .300 Sherwood. Which is also obsolete.
Finally, if it's smoothbore it could be the obsolete 9mm rimfire "garden gun" calibre; although the action looks a bit substantial for that.
Judging by the state of it, I'd say it's probably obsolete, but I wouldn't be too comfortable marching off down the cop shop and plonking it infront of the FLO incase it is something he shouldn't have - I imagine a lot were made in .303.
Any more clues?
i got one of them in a worse state!!!
keep getting blank looks or told its a garden gun...
the gun is a martini henry ,it was the service rifle of the british army at the time of rorkes drift (the zulu wars) hope this helps .
Judging by the size of it, it looks like either a Greener .22 target or a 9mm garden gun (shotgun). What is the internal bore diameter ? Ammo for both of the above is readily available so unless deact would probably require a ticket
I'm telling you it moved!
That barrel looks rather small/stepped in its diameter, was it altered later?the gun is a martini henry, it was the service rifle of the british army at the time of rorkes drift (the zulu wars)
could be made by lots of company's ,but a martini action for sure .
i like the martini , we have an old BSA .22 rim-fire martini at our club ,,donkey's years old but so sweet to shoot .
President of the Maggie Thatcher appreciation society
Spot on I reckon.Originally Posted by EmDee
He took it to a firearm dealer after I made the post, and he told him exactly the same. Also told him it's not worth much, and the condition is very poor. I reckon he is going to take the hacksaw to it, just to be sure.
Thanks everyone for your help.
A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.
I don't have the slightest association with the lingerie industry
Looks like the little Martini Henry .310 'Cadet' the smaller brother to the larger bore .450 or whatever. WOuldnt take much to bore it out to 9mm shotgun.
Check out this veritable fountain of knowledge:
http://www.martinihenry.com/
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Nah, it's all pitted and manky. Wouldn't like to think I was puting any type of live round through it.
A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.
The biggie must have been dead scary to face with a long bayonet attached even without any ammo... weighs over 13 pounds and a steel shoe on the butt as well.the smaller brother to the larger bore .450
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Nah, the bullets travelled quite slowly and buzzed like large bumble-bees, warning of their approach. You just had to have good hearing and be quick on your pins. As you righty point out hand-to-hand they present a whole new set of problems, usually easily solved by surrendering to the local British High Commissioner. See 'Carry On Up the Kyber', an excellent docu-drama on the British presence on the Afghan boarder.
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