Anschutz 1417 .22LR

**leupy** · 19-01-2004, 09:50 AM

No Robin, it ain't easy, and still upsets me.

Life's often like that though, you've just got to let it go.

........like the £60 fine (+ 3 points) I got recently, for driving at 42 mph on a straight piece of DUAL CARRIAGEWAY in Glasgow at 1.30 am, with not another car in sight. Turned out to be a 30 limit, not the 50 I expected <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_frown.gif" alt="Frown" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:

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The missus and me were both scanning for road signs, but neither of us saw the alleged 30 plate.

You've just got to let these things go my friend!

**stillair1** · 20-01-2004, 06:20 PM

When I bought my carbine, the factory thumbhole was still on the drawing board and as with several makes of rimfires, they feel a bit small after using full size air rifles. So as you do, I chucked a bit more money at it and invested a custom stock from Mr Cane.
The stock is made of beech laminate stain nearly black, but with detail showing through. Can't fault it in anyway except the twopack acrylic finish is prone to the odd chip and not easily refinished. Doing it again I would have requested an oil finish.
Accuracy from mine varied from 1/2 to 3/4" at 50yds when new. I'm now getting more 1/2" er's, but the occasional flyer has ruined many groups. I put it down to the mutt behind the butt mostly.
Best ammo is currently Lapua hp with eley hp close behind.
The rifle used to group very well with Tennex, but in the last test session it was spraying them. Perhaps a clean is in order.
Another thing that irritates is the non extraction of live rounds once seated. The chamber has always been tight, so I don't think that its due to clagg, just the inability of the extractor.
If I was to throw more money at it, I would go for a heavier barrel, or heavier silencer to stop the tad of muzzle flip.
The only rifle I would swap it for would be the Sako Varmint or a 1700HB, but then I would loose on the weight front as the 1417 is just the job when you want to take out two rifles and put one over your shoulder. Horses for courses.

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**Hares Ear** · 21-01-2004, 07:05 PM

What a cracking piece of kit that baby is stillair. <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:

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I was shooting on a range last night as it happens, Most of my groups are a half inch at 40 yards, the best is a quarter of an inch.

My 1417 extracts live rounds O.K. and ejects them further than spent cases.

Despite the few misgivings I spoke about in my review, the 1417 is doing my job faultlessly. I do not think a longer .22 rimmie would be in the same league as far as handling and shootability is concerned.

Robin

**stillair1** · 01-02-2004, 04:47 PM

Could be my old ten shot mag you have there Robin if it came from Ed W via Nevetas. Never hardly used it myself as I prefered the five shot.

**Hares Ear** · 01-02-2004, 07:05 PM

I got it from Ed W, so it is probably your old one. It's still working. <img src="http://jsramsbottom.co.uk/bbs/e/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Big Grin" width="15" height="15"><!--graemlin:

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Robin

**Mousemann** · 03-04-2006, 11:04 AM

I've just bought a 1417 with a SAK mod, and very pleased with it. I notice that (in terms of feeding capabilities) it seems to favour Winchester subsonics, Yellow Jackets and CCI Velocitors, but completely hates CCI Stingers and CCI subsonics. The CCI subsonics seem a real struggle to chamber, which appears to be due to a fractionally higher ridge on the bullet. In other words, the 1417 seems to like conical bullets rather than rounded ones. Is this the case in others' experience?

I wanted to find out what the best bore guide for this gun might be. I've ordered a generic one, but is there something specific for this gun? Any other hints as to cleaning? The dealer I got it from said to never clean it, but I can't just leave powder fouling up the thing; that seems to me negligent. Any advice gratefully received

Mousemann

**arjimlad** · 03-04-2006, 02:43 PM

Great review.

Still love my CZ, but this is a very well written review.

Ta !

EGGY · 05-04-2006, 09:17 AM

Good review Ilike my .22 so much I bought the .17 to go with it , same action so the stocks are interchangable , never had any feed problems and I have 3 mags. If you are firm with the action the cases are elected well clear, however the lack of detent on the bolt is annoying

**Mousemann** · 07-04-2006, 04:14 PM

Pal of mine has the Anschutz 1517 in .17HMR too. Not sure if I want two guns the same yet, although his .17 is amazing.

Have gone ahead and ordered a bore guide, and garnered what cleaning advice I can from Anschutz themselves. That's still in the post apparently.

I can just about get the bolt out of my 1417 OK by rotating it at the part where it comes into two halves. But the same friend above can't get the bolt out of his .22 as the comb is in the way. Is there often this much variation in the stock build of these weapons?

cos.mos · 10-05-2006, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mousemann

Pal of mine has the Anschutz 1517 in .17HMR too. Not sure if I want two guns the same yet, although his .17 is amazing.

Have gone ahead and ordered a bore guide, and garnered what cleaning advice I can from Anschutz themselves. That's still in the post apparently.

I can just about get the bolt out of my 1417 OK by rotating it at the part where it comes into two halves. But the same friend above can't get the bolt out of his .22 as the comb is in the way. Is there often this much variation in the stock build of these weapons?

I have both the .22lr 1417 and the .17hmr 1517. I bought the .17 after using the 1417 for a couple of years. Both are great guns and I find them very accurate off a harris bipod. Any rabbits up to 100 yards are certain kills in virtually all conditions and 125 yards in good conditions using eley hollow extra plus. The .17 takes over from where the .22 finishes really, and any rabbits 100 - 150 yards (125 zero) are certain in almost all conditions, longest 200 yards in very good conditions.

The ten shot mags can be a little tricky with the first round out but are fine on the rest - yes the bolt is a bugger until I got used to checking with my thumb after releasing the safety each time - no problems since. The safety s a hard to push awkward location carbuncle and should be sorted but I guss the German's are not going to bother with that.

The short barrels on both the 1417 and 1517 don't offer any problems and the guns handle the same, in fact if you own a 1417 and are thinking of a .17 then you should really consider the 1517 on the grounds that it has the same balance and once you know how to shoot one accurately the other will come straight away too.

Interestingly, the 1417 is a hand chequered stock and the 1517 a laser chequered stock I think - both are the sporter style. Both have that rather thick but well applied varnish which as they age gets a shine where it is handled - I will oil mine when they get tatty (strio firsy of course) as I believe that the wood underneath is not bad and will get better when hand rubbed.

I believe that anyone who buys a 1417 or a 1517 will not be disappointed provided that they study their technique. I think that there are cheaper guns out there that shoot as well given some careful fettling and perhaps a few more quid, but the 1417 and 1517 are very competant and complete packages.

cos.mos

Mushi · 24-05-2006, 11:15 AM

I have witnessed .17 HMR's in the field and do not rate them in terms of accuracy, orthe fact that they appear to need a lot of cleaning after a relatively short period of use. They are also loud. I have a Anschutz target .22 lr, using PMC Moderators' at 950 fps. with a silencer on there is absolutely no noise and it does the business at 100m. I would not swap it for anything.

cos.mos · 24-05-2006, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Mushi

I have witnessed .17 HMR's in the field and do not rate them in terms of accuracy, orthe fact that they appear to need a lot of cleaning after a relatively short period of use. They are also loud. I have a Anschutz target .22 lr, using PMC Moderators' at 950 fps. with a silencer on there is absolutely no noise and it does the business at 100m. I would not swap it for anything.

Your experience is certainly not mine, I rarely clean the .17 and in fact when I do the accuracy takes a few shots to return. Other .17's that I have come across are equally accurate, CZ and Savage. I would say that judging by the bulk of replies your's is a minority opinion.

c ya

cos.mos

**Microtia** · 10-10-2006, 07:29 AM

I have had one of these for several years, and generally like it very much indeed. Problems I found were:

It was fussy as regards sound moderators. Don't know whether the concentricity of the threading on mine is a little out, but I've eventually settled on a steel Parker Hale. Not the quietest, but then neither is the rifle due to the short barrel. It does produce the best accuracy, though.

I was always used to never cleaning a rimfire, and it didnt seem to to make much difference. Not so with this one. A good clean produces staggering accuracy with Eley subs, probably for 100rds or so. Use it frequently to 100 yds or so. Very few bunnies get away.

The bolt is a pain. It is so easy to inadvertently lift it up, and it then won't fire. Stripping the bolt is easy, but getting it back together again so it goes back into the rifle isn't. I was shooting a gallery rifle comp with it at Bisley, when the bolt sort of undone itself after a misfire during a timed sequence. Managed to reassemble it -just.

Never had a problem with ejection. Only have 10 rd mags- always load with 9.
I glasspapered the stock where it had become shiny due to use/skin contact, then oiled it. Came out a nice light matt finish- much better than the varnish..

It is the best rimfire for vehicle use due to the length. Also, with a lamp mounted, the thumbhole is less of a strain on the wrist when you scan at night.

**jonrms** · 10-10-2006, 09:01 AM

I love my Anschutz.. and to prove it... heres a pic of my bruno and my anschutz together... the bruno.. is the one without the sound mod on.. but there both great!!!!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2...t003xo0.th.jpg

**Chris St. MH** · 15-10-2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by jonrms

I love my Anschutz.. and to prove it... heres a pic of my bruno and my anschutz together... the bruno.. is the one without the sound mod on.. but there both great!!!!

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2...t003xo0.th.jpg

Could you please post a bigger pic? I'd like a better look (nice rifles!).

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