HW45, better build quality and a springer so no messing around.
If you had to choose between one of these pistols - one of them a CO2, the other a springer - for the task of destroying, say, a vicious tin can at 20 paces : which would you prefer, and why?
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
HW45, better build quality and a springer so no messing around.
Hi Jim,
Never handled an HW45, but my EB22 rips the buggers to bits.
apparently very close to 6ft/lbs and I reckon it's true, packs one hell of a punch...
recommend it.
atb
Russ
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i've got both pistols and both do the job however with the eb once you have put in the gas cylinder you either have to use it completely or discard when only part used half used otherwise you will damage the seals.
the hw45 you can pick up or put down regardles of how many shots you put through it.
for me it's th hw45 every time (the build quality is much better too)
I have both, the HW45 in .177 and .22 and the EB in .20 and .22.
Build wise the HW45 wins no problem though the EB is not a flimsy affair either. My EB .20 seems to be more powerful than the .22 and fires with an impressive bang. Accuracy wise I find easier to be on target at short distance with the EB than the HW45 , this may be due to the weight of the HW45 or my skill/lack of or both.
I find the EB .20 does more damage to thicker soup cans than the HW45 in either caliber and the EB .22.
I have had a few pellets bounce off with the HW45, though leaving quite a dent in the can.
My EB .20 regulary goes thru both ends of a thick soup can.
My HW45 is well worn in so even though the EB being co2 is easier to rapid shoot, the HW45 is smooth and quick to cock and fire.
The safety on my HW45 is the one thing I do not like, has a mind of its own but have been told how to fix this. The EB safety is excellent.
The ease of taking the EB apart is a good point for service, the HW45 is not much more of a hassle and changing barrels is easy peasy.
I have a scope as well as a laser on my HW45 so accuracy is very good with these aids. My last HW45 had no aiming aids and I still found it easy to be accurate out to approx 20 yards. Sure it would be good at slightly longer range but I do not have the space right now.
The EB is used with open sights, which are basic but functional, though I have just purchased some benjaim scope mounts for it and will see what a good red dot , scope laser etc will do.
Even though the HW45 is more "real gun" looking, I find the EB'S simple design and excellent build make it a pleasure to shoot.
It truely is a pick up and shoot kinda gun. Never really counted how many shots I get out of it but sure it must be over 25.
So accuracy wise it goes to the HW45 at the moment but a close race. Looks wise the HW45 but I think the EB once polished /chromed and blinged it would be the winner for me. Ease of use I give to the EB due to the simple bolt actiona nd ease at getting of the next shot compared to the springer even though a well broken gun takes no time at all.
My 2 and halfs pence worth
Patricio
Get both I did and both are great in their own way as said above
Eric
Enjoy every step you take, you never know which one will be your last.
Ah well Jim
consider the EB cheaper to buy but running costs are higher but what a lovely compact pistol.
HW45 dearer to buy and cheaper to run but longer and heavier.
Both great pistols thats why I got both among others which I must list on here soon.
Cheers Eric
Enjoy every step you take, you never know which one will be your last.
In all seriousness, Eric: we both know that I'm going to end up with a boatload of them!
Cheers,
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
i would get the hw45 i have owned one for a few months and love it i have only just brought a e9a .177 and e9a.22 but would never part with the hw45 put a red dot sight on it i can hit a pop bottle lid every time 10 to 15 metres you will love it also i know the 45 might cost a little more but not after owning it a few months you will soon make up the difference in co2 but both are good pistols
What about a Diana P5 Magnum; 5.1 FPE with RWS SuperH-Points;; http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/show...21#post2737921
Diana Mod. P5 Magnum Pistol;0.177 - AirgunBBS.com
Kenny.
Although the EB is fun mine took some work to sort out. First, the plate that the bolt engages with to hold the bolt shut was incorrectly positioned, so that the bolt blew open when the pistiol was fired. I had to remove it, elongate the fixing holes, and refix. And the trigger was terrible, which wasn't too surprising when I saw how the sears had been finished, or rather not finished. Not too bad now I have polished them up.
So I'd say Crosman's quality control leaves a bit to be desired.
Quite a nice pistol once fixed though. Next project is to knock up some grips to replace the horrible brown planks it comes with.
I'm glad I posted this thread. I'm learning that the EB is not the "simple tank" I thought it to be.
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
I have to say buy both guns, I did, the EB is a cannon and as stated needs a tweak or two, excellent muzzle blast and a real can slicer, the HW 45 is a dream to shoot and cheaper to run, even an old Git! like me can shoot accurately out to 20 metres once it is run in and zeroed,
I shoot RWS Superdomes .22 in both having tried loads of others and found these perfect.