a rules fest ? ...look mate nobody wants twenty gimmees on a course but maybe more then just one just to brake the constant kick in the nuts like your last course did , i like a challenge but i also like to enjoy the challenge which funny enough i did in the end but only because i had gone past the point of caring . balance is the key to a great course and at the end of the day there was no balance what so ever at your last course it was just one hard target after another ...... take my hat off to though pulling off a 57 !. im just glad our newer members didnt come that day cause im sure it would of put them off shooting hft again . anyways all the best see ya soon andy ps im sure steve.l will be along regarding your comment on rules and coures at some point tada