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    Can anyone help identify this unusual rifle?

    A German collector friend has turned up this odd air rifle, and is looking for help in identifying it, as it has no markings. It looks pretty early and uses a cocking principle I have not come across before (at least in in an air rifle). Does it ring any bells with anyone?
    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/ccdjg/MD008393

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/ccdjg/MD008393

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    Sorry - for some reason Photobucket is not showing the pictures. I will try to ge this sorted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccdjg View Post
    A German collector friend has turned up this odd air rifle, and is looking for help in identifying it, as it has no markings. It looks pretty early and uses a cocking principle I have not come across before (at least in in an air rifle). Does it ring any bells with anyone?
    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/ccdjg/MD008393

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q159/ccdjg/MD008393
    Hi

    Links to pics don't seem to work!

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    Problem now sorted - but don't ask me why the links didn't work first time! Here are the pics.

    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/MD008393.jpg
    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...g/MD008396.jpg

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    At a guess I would say Giffard.

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    I was thinking, maybe a Gaggenau?
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    That is an Eisenwerke push-lever lock air rifle made in Gaggenau, Germany

    A rare beast indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyBoy View Post
    That is an Eisenwerke push-lever lock air rifle made in Gaggenau, Germany

    A rare beast indeed

    Matty
    What he said... (and well spotted, Matty)

    Have seen an article on Pyramydair about them (but I couldn't remebmer who it was made by)...hang on a mo and I'l see if I can find it

    Edit: >>> link <<<<
    blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyBoy View Post
    That is an Eisenwerke push-lever lock air rifle made in Gaggenau, Germany

    A rare beast indeed

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    Some key differences with the Eisenwerke Columbia Matty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Some key differences with the Eisenwerke Columbia Matty.
    Yeah...looks like some oaf has broken the push lever off!...

    Looking at the pics again, there are some differences...but it was a good call
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    Thanks for all the comments. The similarity to the Eisenwerke push-lever lock did strike me, but the lack of a link between the plunger and the barrel would be a retrograde step and would make cocking a bit tricky using barrel. Maybe it was a protype forerunner of the push-lever lock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccdjg View Post
    Thanks for all the comments. The similarity to the Eisenwerke push-lever lock did strike me, but the lack of a link between the plunger and the barrel would be a retrograde step and would make cocking a bit tricky using barrel. Maybe it was a protype forerunner of the push-lever lock?
    Are those links between barrel and cylinder simply to locate the two parts, John? From the pics it looks like there's very little holding the barrel rigid and tight into the cylinder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyBoy View Post
    That is an Eisenwerke push-lever lock air rifle made in Gaggenau, Germany

    A rare beast indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garvin View Post
    Are those links between barrel and cylinder simply to locate the two parts, John? From the pics it looks like there's very little holding the barrel rigid and tight into the cylinder!
    I have never seen this gun in the flesh, so can't comment. I will have to ask the owner a few more questions - not as easy as it sounds as he doesn't speak any English.

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    I agree with GARVIN 100%

    it's definitely not an Eisenwerke Columbia

    it's the Eisenwerke Columbia's older brother the Eisenwerke... now what was it again?

    Damn! I have forgotten
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