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    Chinese horror!

    I have just been given a horrible gun by a neighbour

    He got my hopes up by saying "I have an old air rifle in my loft it's been there for years. Would you like it?"

    Of course I jumped at the chance, imagining an old BSA or Weihrauch would be revealed...

    It says "Pioneer" on it and has a locking lever on the break-barrel action.

    It looks awful and has surface rust. The stock is bright orange and so badly finished

    Does anyone know which Chinese factory produced these? Whichever it was they probably shouldn't have...

    It's probably not worth even looking at in terms of a clean-up

    Oh well...
    Opportunity is missed by most people, because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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    I had a similar experience last week.

    Someone offered me an Air Wolf, and I jumped at the chance. My better half collected the gun on her way home from work, and entered our house saying "Don't get too excited."

    Apparently, the Chinese made a very nasty Airwold break-barrel twenty years ago, and I now have an example.

    Hubris time.

    Martin

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    i expect if you stripped it you will find the spring is made of noodles and its got a spring roll as a piston

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    That must be a pretty old one, prior to the 'Arrow' (kind of the B2's daddy). They were probably produced in some numbered Collective Ironworks No.332 factory.

    I think you could

    1. Sell it to a collector of Chinese airguns.

    2. Send it off to Steve Pope or Bonnie & Clyde to have the piston fitted with a plastic seal & buttonning plus bore polish and full reblue prior to fitting into a CS800 stock.

    3. Burn the stock in your fire and, in an act of wonderful irony, bash the barrel flat with a hammer and send the metalwork off to be recycled in a Chinese steelworks to be made into new Chinese rifles ...

    Can we have a picture to drool over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakecentral View Post
    I had a similar experience last week.

    Someone offered me an Air Wolf, and I jumped at the chance. My better half collected the gun on her way home from work, and entered our house saying "Don't get too excited."

    Apparently, the Chinese made a very nasty Airwold break-barrel twenty years ago, and I now have an example.

    Hubris time.

    Martin
    Are you sure it was Chinese, and not the re-badged Original 24 that Webley marketed in the mid 1980s as the 'Air Wolf', Martin?

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    I had a Pioneer! Aah, the old days

    Still remember the ad in the airgun mags for it. £19.99 it was.

    It's the B2's older brother, but probably more or less exactly the same. IIRC the older ones didn't have scope rails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humperdingle View Post
    I had a Pioneer! Aah, the old days

    Still remember the ad in the airgun mags for it. £19.99 it was.

    It's the B2's older brother, but probably more or less exactly the same. IIRC the older ones didn't have scope rails.
    £19.99! What year would this have been?

    This one has grooves for fitting a scope...

    I'll stick a photo up later
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTDT View Post
    Are you sure it was Chinese, and not the re-badged Original 24 that Webley marketed in the mid 1980s as the 'Air Wolf', Martin?
    Jim,

    I really didn't look very closely. I'll take a photo and bung it up here (but will try not to hijack the thread...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakecentral View Post
    Jim,

    I really didn't look very closely. I'll take a photo and bung it up here (but will try not to hijack the thread...)
    Hijack away my friend

    I'll post a pick of my beauty later

    Sounds like your gun might not be a complete horror...

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyBoy View Post
    £19.99! What year would this have been?

    This one has grooves for fitting a scope...

    I'll stick a photo up later
    Would have been around 1986.

    I think the dovetailed version came out (or at least was advertised) perhaps a couple of years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humperdingle View Post
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    Haha, now you try to stick to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by humperdingle View Post
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    Red face Oops! Perhaps I should have looked more closely...

    Hmm,

    Having just dragged the poor gun out from the cabinet, I noticed "Made in West Germany" stamped on the action. So I'd better say 'Mea culpa' and crawl back under my stone.

    Photos of the gun (and original box) are here: <clickety>

    Martin

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    Quote Originally Posted by peakecentral View Post
    Hmm,

    Having just dragged the poor gun out from the cabinet, I noticed "Made in West Germany" stamped on the action. So I'd better say 'Mea culpa' and crawl back under my stone.

    Photos of the gun (and original box) are here: <clickety>

    Martin
    Hi Martin

    Yes I'll definitely be happy to swap my very rare only slightly coroded "Pioneer" for your truly dreadful "Air Wolf"

    Cheers
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    Nah, at least I can say I have an Air Wolf!

    TBH, I have no idea what to do with it. A VGC one went for £50 apparently, so it has little financial value, but I wouldn't mind letting it go to someone who collected Webleys.

    Martin

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