Yes i know about leg work and obviously i have doors to knock on, my only mistake was to think that a forum for shooters might have a few local contacts it seems to be the way things are done in archery, but i willl avoid making this mistake again. Lucky for me my Grandfather does the rounds with a crate of whisky for the local land owners who give him shoots and now i am close enough to benefit, as i said before thought there might be somone on here i could meet up with and shoot not realising it was criminal.