Opportunity is missed by most people, because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
Obviously the 80 is a classic and weighs more, excluding that I would guess the 95 is a better option as 95 has quicker lock time and is lighter... It also appears that some tunned 80s have sleeved cylinders effectively making them 95s internally. I'm new to the concept of tunning but reading other threads it suggests that's the case. Unless someone tells me otherwise
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Both, I have each one and they are different. If you're a lightweight go for the lightweight!
Ps. Mine have been Vmached by Mr Pope. Superb bits of kit!
Well. I didn't fire it, but I held someone elses HW80 today, and compared with my HW95K, it's a _lot_ heavier. Looked very much the same, and had the same Rekord trigger. Lovely gun really. Think the barrel was about 4 inches longer on the 80.
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my 80 with a v glide kit in .177 was so good i sold it.the best springer i have owned,smoothest to shoot and the most accurate.total weight was under 9.75lbs with a 3-12x44 mamba light.for me the 80 is the best springer out there with the same mods as i had done.my 95 that was also tuned was never as good and i could not shoot it as well.if you can "lift" the 80 and hold it i would go for it every time.only sold mine as i like the kick and now have an evo.just for information my lsr rifle is a s400k with a ginb stock and that outfit is heavier than my 80 so i do not regard the 80 as heavy.other good rifles are the 97,tx and prosport.all will do what you want at the end of the day,just go for the one you like the look of the best
I liked the weight and sturdiness of the HW80 I owned (.177), but i didn't like the lazy, slow, heavy feeling shot cycle (courtesy of the 30mm piston and weak spring (and the effect that recoil had on my ability to shoot accurately).
The HW98 i currently own shoots with a much quicker, snapier feeling recoil. Closer to a Theoben or v-mach kitted rifle. Thats why the 98 stayed and the 80 whent.
Iv'e not owned a 95, but it would be simple enough to add a bit of heft with a barrel weight or heavy silencer and heavy scope and single piece mount.
AA Prosport.177, HW77.177, HW97K.177, HW98.177, Theoben Evolution.177, Theoben SLR98.177, AA S410.177, Alros Trailsman.22
This one is down purely to personal preference.
They're both solidly built, quality springers with the same superb trigger.
I'd base this one on handling alone.
Even though a standard 80 can feel lazy and slow, they're still accurate in that guise. But can be made better (as in sweeter/less recoil and smoother). A sleeved down one would be the way to go....very, very smooth, or short stroked if you like.
The 95, even though it is lighter, doesn't thrash about like some lighter springers, due to its stock design and feeling of more "straight line" recoil.
If you wanted to add more weight to the 95, that's simples....just add a 98 stock to it, adding weight to absorb more of the recoil and also assisting in keeping it steady on aim.
They're both brilliant rifles, even if kept in standard form and I'm sure you'll be happy with either of these fine guns.
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In my humble opinion
Putting aside weight issues
Out of the box the 95 is better
Sub 12 - 95 and vmach/SFS kit makes a brilliant gun, to get the same level of brilliance in the 80 you need a v glide tune especially in the livelier 177.
Zaksgod - mate that 80 is a brilliant gun
cheers,glad you like the 80
Zaksgod - mate that 80 is a brilliant gun