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    What's mean a stamp Hull Cartridge weihurach????

    hi guys a friend of mind asking ....please whats mean a stamp Hull Cartridge weihurach air rifle? recently he bought a HW99 from our local RFD when he brought it with him in our local shooting club everybody said to him that your rifle is NOT AUTHENTIC because it doesn't carry the Hull Cartidge stamp on the barrel!!!!???...he think seriously now to return the rifle back to the RFD store...but I said wait and let me ask the experts first? please can you help...... is his air rifle authantic german made or just imitated (faked) weihurach rifle?????...... cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by massa View Post
    hi guys a friend of mind asking ....please whats mean a stamp Hull Cartridge weihurach air rifle? recently he bought a HW99 from our local RFD when he brought it with him in our local shooting club everybody said to him that your rifle is NOT AUTHENTIC because it doesn't carry the Hull Cartidge stamp on the barrel!!!!???...he think seriously now to return the rifle back to the RFD store...but I said wait and let me ask the experts first? please can you help...... is his air rifle authantic german made or just imitated (faked) weihurach rifle?????...... cheers
    Hi Massa
    Hull cartridge are the official importers to UK. If its not a Hull cartridge Import the power may be set at the lower German limit which is much lower than ours and If your friend has a fault with it Hull wont guarantee it and your friend will have to pay for any faults to be repaired. Id get the serial number which will be a long number stamped some where on the gun ,give Hull a ring and see what they say. Id also get it checked on a chrono graph (the club got one??). That said I had a fault with a Hull gun which appeared when it was tuned and I got it fixed myself .The gun is almost certainly a Weirauch it may just be one not intended for UK market. Its a bit like the "grey" japanese Import cars ok till they go wrong then no warranty .

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    Hull Cartridge is simply the official importer in the UK. Other RFD can import Weihrauch too so our friend's rifle is likely to be one of these so called 'grey imports'. The only different is the stamp and who covers the warranty. The only big issue is a grey import may have to go back to Germany if there is a problem other than Hull with Hull Cartridge so the turn around time is likely to be longer. I have been buying greys for years as they are usually cheaper and have had no problems.

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    It will be a genuine Weihrauch air rifle, made in Mellrichstadt just like all the other HW's.

    Hull Cartridge stamp the barrels of the airguns they import, and will carry out warranty work only on those airguns. If your friend bought the gun new through a shop then they will be responsible for warranty work, so it is nothing to worry about.

    Weihrauch make most of their guns in several versions, one for their domestic market (7.5J, 5.5ft/lb limit) and others for export markets. Chrono the gun to check it is a u.k spec and then enjoy your shooting. HTH

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    Quote Originally Posted by 18 Wheeler View Post
    It will be a genuine Weihrauch air rifle, made in Mellrichstadt just like all the other HW's.

    Hull Cartridge stamp the barrels of the airguns they import, and will carry out warranty work only on those airguns. If your friend bought the gun new through a shop then they will be responsible for warranty work, so it is nothing to worry about.

    Weihrauch make most of their guns in several versions, one for their domestic market (7.5J, 5.5ft/lb limit) and others for export markets. Chrono the gun to check it is a u.k spec and then enjoy your shooting. HTH
    I bought my HW 35 from the gun shop in the Old Christchurch Rd, Bournemouth, in 1976...I only noticed 2 years ago that it didn't have the Hull Cartridge stamp on it.

    If I remember correctly it cost £65.

    It has never let me down and always been accurate and up to a good power level.

    Cheers

    Steve ( ;-)>

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    In the 70s I believe Edgar Brothers were importing the venerable HW into the UK!

    Now your friend's gun has probably come from somewhere like The Sportsman Gun Centre, who fed up with the prices being levied by HC, import the guns themselves. Now remember there have been plenty of problems with HC guns being over power, under powered and generally lousily finished. I would guess that the gun has been checked, but get it checked again for peace of mind. It is as genuine as an HC gun, just HC will refuse to work on it, should there be problems, but would you want the hassle of having to ship the gun to the other side of the country anyway?

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    Stamp or not wouldn't worry me in the slightest.

    Whether the gun is smooth accurate and of sufficient power for my needs is what matters. If yours (your friend's) is then nothing to worry about. If it isn't and it was bought new then return it to the dealer who is responsible for putting it right or replacing it.

    It is unlikely to go wrong later (except by misuse), but if it does so once the warranty has lapsed, there are plenty of spares available and willing individuals out there to put it right if you/your friend cannot do so themselves.
    Happy Shooting!! Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weasle View Post
    I bought my HW 35 from the gun shop in the Old Christchurch Rd, Bournemouth, in 1976...I only noticed 2 years ago that it didn't have the Hull Cartridge stamp on it.

    If I remember correctly it cost £65.

    It has never let me down and always been accurate and up to a good power level.

    Cheers

    Steve ( ;-)>
    Lasted longer than the gun shop. Where abouts was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    Lasted longer than the gun shop. Where abouts was it?
    Walking up the Old Christchurch Road, it was on the left on the last corner before the straight going up to the round a bout

    It was a great shop run by a fantastically enthusiastic guy - I asked him what air rifle he would recommend - the rest is history

    Cheers

    Steve ( ;-)>

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    No Hull stamp on my mk1 1983 HW50 but Weihrauch confirmed the serial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weasle View Post
    Walking up the Old Christchurch Road, it was on the left on the last corner before the straight going up to the round a bout

    It was a great shop run by a fantastically enthusiastic guy - I asked him what air rifle he would recommend - the rest is history

    Cheers

    Steve ( ;-)>
    I'm probably sitting right above where it was... or not that far away... depends which roundabout you mean... the big one at the top or the one at the top of the pedestrian zone. Shame, could have been dead handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    I'm probably sitting right above where it was... or not that far away... depends which roundabout you mean... the big one at the top or the one at the top of the pedestrian zone. Shame, could have been dead handy
    I left Bournemouth in the late '70s and cant remember any pedestrianised areas in those days

    It was the R A B at the top of the hill at the Old Christchurch Rd (police station end of town) - there used to be a night club and Burger joint called the Alcatraz on the right hand side of the road just before the R A B - the gun shop was probably about 400 yrds back down the hill were the road bent.

    Many happy days spent in Bournemouth in my 20's

    Cheers

    ( ;-)>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weasle View Post
    I left Bournemouth in the late '70s and cant remember any pedestrianised areas in those days

    It was the R A B at the top of the hill at the Old Christchurch Rd (police station end of town) - there used to be a night club and Burger joint called the Alcatraz on the right hand side of the road just before the R A B - the gun shop was probably about 400 yrds back down the hill were the road bent.

    Many happy days spent in Bournemouth in my 20's

    Cheers

    ( ;-)>
    All changed now. But i'm spitting distance to the common/grass area which is by the mini RAB on a bend... can you remember the name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretagentmole View Post
    In the 70s I believe Edgar Brothers were importing the venerable HW into the UK!

    Now your friend's gun has probably come from somewhere like The Sportsman Gun Centre, who fed up with the prices being levied by HC, import the guns themselves. Now remember there have been plenty of problems with HC guns being over power, under powered and generally lousily finished. I would guess that the gun has been checked, but get it checked again for peace of mind. It is as genuine as an HC gun, just HC will refuse to work on it, should there be problems, but would you want the hassle of having to ship the gun to the other side of the country anyway?
    hi matey spot on I did call my friend after I read your comment and other member comments he confirm to me that he bought his weihrauch from SPORTSMAN GUN CENTRE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    All changed now. But i'm spitting distance to the common/grass area which is by the mini RAB on a bend... can you remember the name?
    Sorry

    the names gone from my poor old grey matter - the guy who owned it was mad keen on stalking rifles and I remember his last acquisition (1979) was a circular magazined Mannlicher? ...Beautiful

    Cheers

    Steve ( ;-)>

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