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    Newbie to black powder first purchase.

    I have had co term for a while now and always been into my modern stuff but sometimes the guys down the club get my eyes turning so I decided to dab my toe in and get a smoothbore .54 cal Ardesa Hawken percussion rifle.

    http://www.westernshootingsupplies.com/page7.htm

    scroll down to rifle.

    I need to get all the stuff that comes with it so please help.

    eg phials, powder measure, some kind of case or bag etc.
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    If you do a search back a week of so, you'll sse that I've answered all your questions for another noobie beginning in BP shooting, albeit with a revolver. The first thing to do is to get the Lyman Black Powder handbook, and the second thing is to get over to our range on sunday morning, or to another range where BP is shot.

    You WON'T need phials for the gun that you are going to shoot, but you WILL need suitable size patches and ball to fit. Undersized by about 20thou - the patch makes up the difference. However, you'll have to try various sizes out to see, hence going to where others also shoot BP.

    And what have you got? A smoothbore, or a rifle? Even the advert gets them confungled - so which is it?

    Assuming that what you have really IS a smoothie - here is a pretty average load for one with a slightly longer barrel than yours, culled from www.muzzleloadingforum.com - there are a few Brits there, too, including David Minshall from the MLAGB and Robin Hewitt.

    'As one reference, my .54cal smoothbore PRB load which keep balls on a 3" aim point sticker at 50yds is:
    .54cal x 33" GM [Flint] smoothbore
    90grns Goex 3F
    .022" patch
    Hornady .520"


    Remington #11 percussion caps? Don't get anything else.

    Adjustable brass powder measure and a set of scales?

    Black Powder? Please, NO subs in a big bore gun like yours.

    You'll need FFFg - FFg at a pinch, but FFFg is better.

    Spit-lube patch lubricant, unless you are happy to keep a patch in your mouth while you reload....spit is waaaay cheaper than Spit-Patch, for sure.

    Please note that shooting BP requires a totally NEW approach to basic firearms safety, too, that's why the NRA runs BP RCO courses. It is NOT intuitive, and needs some serious thinking about.

    Now go search the forum on this thread for my last set of answers....and then come back.

    tac
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    Many thanks I ail get my head in.
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    Sorry, my English is rather limited, so please explain what you mean?

    Thank you.

    tac

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    I'll get me had in the the books and do some reading on here mate.
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    Translate this for me, please - 'Many thanks I ail get my head in.'

    Sorry, I don't know what you mean.

    tac

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    Translate this for me, please - 'Many thanks I ail get my head in.'

    Sorry, I don't know what you mean.

    tac
    I think he means he is going to read up on the subject.

    Wot Skool did yoo go to?

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    A public one.

    tac

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield2band View Post
    I think he means he is going to read up on the subject.

    Wot Skool did yoo go to?
    Spot on mate that is what I meant.

    The gun came it is very nice and shoots great.

    Thanks to you all very helpful.
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