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    Oldest HW80

    Rescued from a dealer and in a poor state...Ser no. 900182...is this the oldest 80 out there? Regards Mach 1.5

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    Had an Edgar bros one with no seriel number. Still got the barrel fitted to what was originaly a .177k version but now fitted with a .22 Venom kit. If yours in a Hull one then you'll find Edgar Bros ones were much earlier.
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    Hw80

    Nope...no hull cartridge stamp on this one. Regards Mach 1.5

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    Hull is stamped on the barrel anyway. Mine had Edgar Bros along the scope rails. I'll have a look at mine but being a K model originaly it would be newish anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach 1.5 View Post
    Rescued from a dealer and in a poor state...Ser no. 900182...is this the oldest 80 out there? Regards Mach 1.5
    I have 933559 , no Hull or EB stamp but is marked GB in a circle on the breech ??
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    I have 926011 and that is a 1983 rifle with Edgar Brothers Macclesfield stamped between the scope dovetails.
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    Hw80

    This one is marked GB but no other marks. So who did import the first HW80's? No agent no stamp me thinks? So a gray import if you want to take notice of Hull Cartridge advertising!!. Mach 1.5

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    When was the first HW80 made, I know the R1 & HW80 come out around the same time but what year ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellycrawler View Post
    When was the first HW80 made, I know the R1 & HW80 come out around the same time but what year ??
    I think the first adverts, and 'test' in AGW were in 1981.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellycrawler View Post
    When was the first HW80 made, I know the R1 & HW80 come out around the same time but what year ??
    " Ironically, delays in the production of the R1 stock, which required larger stock blanks than the shorter, rather Germanic HW 80 stock design of that time, resulted in the HW 80 being introduced a little before the U.S. debut of the Beeman R1 in late 1981."


    From the Dr Bob Beeman interview


    ATB Mick
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    me got one seriel no# 933612 walnut square stock mk1 ,only GB stamped said to be 1983
    atb john
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    I got one in 1981 and they were new out.

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    I found this list on the web and thought it would interest some of you. It's seems serial numbers were not model / type related but included everything done in order regardless. I dont know how accurate it is or if it is official but here it is anyway. Maybe those that know the true age of their own rifle could shed some light as to wether it is acurate or not.
    First HW rifle produced: 1951
    5100 Manufactured 1955
    5138 Manufactured 1955
    31151 Manufactured 1955
    44485 Manufactured 1956
    51322 Manufactured 1956
    58446 Manufactured 1957
    72243 manufactured 1959
    76244 Manufactured 1960
    99551 Delivered 1961
    120662 Manufactured 1962
    142447 Manufactured 1964
    149423 Manufactured 1965
    195863 Manufactured 1965
    200000 manufactured 1966
    241065 Manufactured 1966
    395231 Manufactured 1968
    296000 Manufactured 1969
    309345 Manufactured 1969
    322960 Manufactured 1969
    332966 Manufactured 1969
    333015 Manufactured 1969
    333219 Manufactured 1970
    346900 Manufactured 1970
    357053 Manufactured 1970
    373816 Manufactured 1970
    375788 Manufactured 1970
    400000 Manufactured 1972
    401391 Manufactured 1972
    423452 Manufactured 1972
    469655 Manufactured 1973
    480574 Manufactured 1973
    496842 Manufactured 1973
    512990 Manufactured 1974
    583245 Manufactured 1975
    600000 Manufactured 1976
    612502 Manufactured 1976
    623997 Manufactured 1976
    624554 Manufactured 1976
    670138 Manufactured 1977
    671143 Manufactured 1977
    702045 Manufactured 1979
    741394 Manufactured 1979
    778058 Manufactured 1980
    777006 new in 1980
    785538 Manufactured 1980
    800000 Manufactured 1980
    843636 HW35 from leather to nylon piston seal 1980
    890268 Manufactured 1980
    902189 Manufactured 1981
    902315 Manufactured 1981
    926011 Manufactured 1983
    940000 new in 1985
    943799 bought new 1986
    1000000 manufactured 1983.
    1000375 manufactured 1983
    1001845 manufactured 1983
    1003486 was delivered in 1984
    1003516 Bought new 1984
    1003582 was delivered in 1984
    1003986 manufactured 1984
    1007970 manufactured 1984
    1011026 was delivered in 1984
    1011108 was delivered in 1984
    1016650 was delivered in 1985
    1016823 manufactured 1985
    1023310 manufactured 1985
    1024914 new in 1986
    1032802 purchased new 1986
    1035801 1987
    1036521 was delivered in 1987
    1036528 was delivered in 1987
    1040548 new in 1987
    1041261 was delivered in 1987
    1048169 1988
    1066409 was delivered in 1987
    1089152 Bought new Sep 1987
    1099881 was delivered in 1988
    1139541 was delivered in 1988
    1139761 purchased new 1988
    1233526 was delivered in 1991
    1531173 2001
    1162971 new in 1988
    1178259 born 1989
    1181401 was delivered in 1989
    1181555 was delivered in 1989
    1181588 was delivered in 1989
    1182289 was delivered in 1989
    1182580 manufactured 1990
    1183140 bought new in 1990
    1186081 manufactured 1990
    1188451 was delivered in 1990
    1195375 new in 1992
    1288125 was delivered in 1993
    1288752 manufactured 1993
    1289991 manufactured 1993
    1302969 manufactured 1993
    1364279 was delivered in 1994
    1370364 produced in 1995
    1446049 HW77/97 switch from 25mm to 26mm cylinder
    1459697 was delivered 1998
    1538821 bought new in 2001
    1551576 was delivered in 2001
    1576934 was delivered in 2002
    1606912 2003
    1616583 produced in 2004
    1634135 2004
    1653441 Delivered 2005
    1687223 was delivered in 2006
    1690371 2006
    1693047 new in Apr 2007
    17320** Sep 2010#
    1756120 2008
    1767276 Bought Dec2010
    1773086 Delivered 2009
    1790356 Oct 2010
    1802359 2010
    1819808 new in Aug 2011
    1831972 Delivered 2011
    1832538 Nov 2011
    1834705 Bought Jan 2013
    1837081 2011
    18560** Jul 2012
    1856544 Sep 2012
    1856662 Sept 2012
    1856877 Delivered 2012
    1867785 2012
    1867893 Delivered Dec 2012
    1875984 Bought Jan 2013
    1878587 Bought Feb 2013
    19045** 2005
    1906032 2007
    1907034 HW100 Full length changed to QF on 10/10/06
    1909005 2007
    1913451 Aug 2009
    1914346 Manufactured Aug 2008
    19178** Sep 2009
    1918940 May 2010
    1927208 Jun 2012
    19308** Sep 2012
    1930956 Sep 2012
    1932093 Bought Jan 2013
    1932998 Bought Feb 2013
    1933020 Feb 2013
    1933524 Bought 2013
    1934822 Bought Jun 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellycrawler View Post
    I found this list on the web and thought it would interest some of you. It's seems serial numbers were not model / type related but included everything done in order regardless. I dont know how accurate it is or if it is official but here it is anyway. Maybe those that know the true age of their own rifle could shed some light as to wether it is acurate or not.
    Ah well Mr Bellycrawler I can answer a few of those questions for you as I wrote the list in the first place --- though it seems to have been added to with some later serial numbers, which is great because it's what I hoped would happen.

    1951 weihrauch started production.

    The 100,000 numbers were published in Airgunworld in the early 1980s.

    The one millionth gun was a gold plated HW35 and was featured on Airgunworld front cover in 1983.

    Leather seal to synthetic seal serial number was published in the Airgun Book by John Walther.

    The change point from 25 to 26mm on the 77 is from Chambers' and VMac's websites.

    Introduction dates for the different MKs of 77 are from adverts in Magazines and Jim's announcement in SAR.

    Most of the rest of the serial numbers and dates are taken from German, American and Italian websites with the dating coming from Emails from Weihrauch.

    I just stuck everything together one night when there was nothing on telly and stuck it up on the BBS in the collector's section ---it's everywhere now.


    All the best Mick
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    Quote Originally Posted by T 20 View Post
    Ah well Mr Bellycrawler I can answer a few of those questions for you as I wrote the list in the first place --- though it seems to have been added to with some later serial numbers, which is great because it's what I hoped would happen.
    I just stuck everything together one night when there was nothing on telly and stuck it up on the BBS in the collector's section ---it's everywhere now.
    All the best Mick
    Just googled & waded through the junk, that list seemed about the best one. Started something good & worthwhile by the look of it.
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