Hi chaps not done this for a while but was at my local range today North Wales Shooting School and decided to give it a go again . I have also got a new rifle and scope . A Steyr LG11O Hunter with a Lightstream scope on top , I put 14 , 12 bore empty shell's on the furthest rack and ranged it at 83yards it took me 17 shots to send them all spinning the best I have ever done by a long way . It was an ideal day no wind at all ATB Mike