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    aria

    Hi.Glad to enter mine into the pool.
    Premier 22/02/71. E318,and really sweet!

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    Thank you for latest numbers.

    I think we have all we need for now. As Jeff Hyder and John Atkins have previously pointed out, there is no real way of dating individual pistols from batch or assembly numbers, particularly as the number of pistols within a certain batch is unknown.

    This thread had demonstrated this and I thank all who have contributed. It certainly shows the immense number of Webley air pistols in existence today and long may it continue.

    Kind regards,

    John

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    can i put my name on the list as i own the webley senior No.407

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    Senior 1949. Batch 43 extended knurling on .177 and .22 barrels.

    Location: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada.
    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    On the back of a very sensible question around batch numbers on another thread, I realised that I do not know of two that are alike, nor do I know of any collector who does. SO, is there a potential matched pair out there?

    The purpose of this thread is to record as many known post WW2 batch numbers for the Mk1, Senior and Junior air pistols. No need to post pics yet but if two are identified with the same number, then we'll look for further details. We just need to be mindful a pistol may have changed ownership over time and we need to be sure we are not recording the same pistol twice. It is also possible two pistols with the same apparent batch number may be identified, which were made years apart but share the same number. Again, these examples will warrant further study if and when they are encountered.

    I'll update the list below periodically as results come in:

    Mk1
    035 - AC99
    49 - Leonardj
    58 - Ormicron
    62 - Jackieboy
    72 - JM
    73 - Troubledshooter
    83 - Jackieboy
    107 - Daveh
    115 - Leonardj
    162 - Leonardj
    163 - Jackieboy
    188 - M.Meijer
    225 - Jonbaz
    262 - Hyscore
    250 - Lefrelon
    270 - Ormicron
    304 - Micky
    309 - Troubledshooter
    319 - Ormicron
    321 - Ormicron
    338 - Harry mac
    353 - Micky
    354 - JM sold 1993
    435 - Lefrelon
    436 - Micky
    607 - Abasmajor
    673 - AC99
    680 - CHJF177 - bought new 1963
    707 - Ashf9999 No 4
    770 - Ormicron
    784 - Ormicron
    847 - Jackieboy
    856 - JM
    859 - CHJF177
    869 - Jackieboy
    872 - Micky
    874 - Ormicron
    938 - Palmerclassic
    1053 - CHJF177
    1069 - Troubledshooter
    1093 - Andy30S&W Also has scratched in (date) 25/10/49
    1184 - JM sold 2004
    1265 - Hyscore
    1286 - Micky
    1295 - Ormicron
    1684 - Jackieboy
    1814 - Snodgrass
    2013 - AC99
    2290 - Troubledshooter


    Senior
    19 - Leonardj
    035 - private collection. Wartime issue with prewar trigger. Does not match below
    035 - JM. Early postwar with extended knurling

    054 - Lefrelon
    86 -Snodgrass
    87 - Troubledshooter
    122 - Fronteria (purchased 15/2/64)
    126 - Troubledshooter
    131 - Ashf9999
    132 - Micky
    149 - Troubledshooter
    153 - JM
    173 - JM sold 2000
    184 - Abasmajor
    209 - Troubledshooter
    212 - Jackieboy
    257 - Micky
    312 - Troubledshooter
    317 - AC99
    327 - Hyscore
    322 - Ashf9999
    355 - Ashf9999
    374 - Leonardj
    380 - Micky SA99
    404 - Micky
    421 - CHJF177
    436 - Micky
    442 - Jonbaz
    459 - Troubledshooter
    488 - Troubledshooter
    547 - Jonbaz
    557 - Hyscore
    617 - Troubledshooter
    625 - Leonardj
    632 - Leonardj
    637 - Ormicron
    651 - Daveh
    684 - M.Meijer
    730 - Garvin
    759 - JM sold 2003
    742 - Ormicron
    831 - Palmerclassic
    841 - Troubledshooter
    891 - CHJF177
    938 - Jackieboy
    940 - Fronteria
    961 - CHJF177
    967 - Jackieboy
    972 - Lefrelon
    1009 - Leonardj
    1043 - Micky
    1071 - Jackieboy
    1124 - CHJF177
    1198 - Ormicron
    1209 - Jackieboy
    1251 - Hyscore
    1261 - thenightstalker
    1322 - Troubledshooter
    1328 - JM
    1366 - JM
    1456 - Troubledshooter
    1528 - AC99
    1530 - Troubledshooter
    1601 - Bigseth Also marked SH454 on frame above trigger on LHS
    1620 - Leonardj
    1648 - Troubledshooter
    1856 - Ormicron
    1929 - Troubledshooter
    1933 - JM sold 1992
    1997 - Micky
    2039 - Ormicron
    2161 - Troubledshooter
    2237 - Jackieboy
    2246 - Carlos
    2301 - JM
    2381 - Troubledshooter
    3160 - Leonardj
    4486 -Snodgrass -early extended knurling


    Junior
    1 - Troubledshooter
    1 -Ali D Both early versions. Potential match

    10 - CHJF177
    35 - Leonardj
    43 - Troubledshooter
    46 - CHJF177
    74 - JM
    99 - Hyscore
    132 - dogsbody
    135 - CHJF177
    145 - Harry mac dated 09/72
    164 - Webley ken
    165 - Ormicron
    173 - AC99
    198 - Abasmajor
    203 - Troubledshooter
    217 - Micky
    237 - Jackieboy
    259 - Troubledshooter
    260 - Micky
    299 - Jackieboy
    314 - Ashf9999 extended grips
    331 - Daveh
    332 - JM
    356 - JM
    362 - CHJF177
    368 - JM sold 2003
    376 - Jonbaz
    423 - Webley ken Extended grips
    431 - Leonardj
    455 - Lefrelon
    493 - Ormicron
    503 - Jackieboy
    525 - Jackieboy
    536 - Ormicron
    581 - Troubledshooter
    588 - Ashf9999 Suncorite
    593 - Webley ken
    598 - Palmerclassic
    605 - Jonbaz
    624 - Troubledshooter
    649 - Micky
    653 - Hyscore
    680 - Abasmajor
    710 - Ormicron
    711 - Leonardj
    725 - Jonbaz
    732 - Ormicron
    762 - Troubledshooter
    773 - Hyscore
    780 - Webley ken
    796 - Hyscore
    807 - Micky
    819 - JM
    835 - Jackieboy
    860 - Ormicron
    871 - Bruno27
    901 - Ashf9999
    920 - CHJF177
    991 - Leonardj
    1150 - Troubledshooter
    1198 - Troubledshooter
    1261 - Micky
    1292 -Snodgrass
    1319 - JM
    1330 - Ormicron
    1342 - Troubledshooter
    1362 - Ormicron
    1428 - Leonardj
    1507 - dogsbody
    1521 - Abasmajor
    1523 - Troubledshooter
    1530 - thenightstalker
    1600 - Micky
    1736 - Troubledshooter
    1751 - Hyscore
    2208 - AC99
    2268 - Leonardj
    2558 - Lefrelon
    2888 - Jonbaz
    2677 - JM sold 1996
    3102 - Lefrelon
    3793 - JM
    4100 - thenightstalker
    5048 - Lefrelon

    Junior Mk2
    107 - Webley ken
    306 - Johnbaz
    346 - CHJF177
    426 - Leonardj
    473 - Ormicron
    504 - Lefrelon
    717 - Troubledshooter
    909 - Ashf9999

    Premier
    4 - Ormicron (E)
    16 - Hyscore100
    44 - Leonardj (E) 1/70
    49 - JM (A) 4/65
    56 - Ormicron (E)
    64 - Jackieboy
    70 - Leonardj (A) 3/65
    77 - Palmerclassic (B)
    78 - Jackieboy
    80 - Troubledshooter (E) 7/8
    87 - Micky (F)
    100 - Hyscore100
    108 - Ashf9999 (E)
    117 - Micky (D)
    121 - Garvin (D)
    141 - Troubledshooter
    143 - AC99
    152 - thenightstalker (E) 1/71
    156 - Leonardj (F) 1/70
    202 - Abasmajor (B)
    205 - Hyscore100
    212 - Jackieboy
    217 - CHJF177 (E) 5/75
    222 - JM (B) 5/65
    257 - Jonbaz
    275 - Leonardj (B) 2/66
    286 - JM (F) 11/72
    301 - Troubledshooter (E) 11/71
    329 - Leonardj (D) 3/67
    392 - Lefrelon (E) coated
    405 - Jonbaz
    410 - CHJF177 (F) 2/72
    421 - Jackieboy
    427 - Jackieboy
    473 - JM (E) 10/73
    477 - Troubledshooter (D) 2/68
    477 - Ormicron (E) 1/74
    6 years apart, so different batches
    522 - AC99
    535 - Ashf9999 (E) 6/74
    536 - CHJF177 (F) 5/72
    553 - Troubledshooter (E) 12/71
    614 - Micky
    623 - Ormicron (E)
    647 - JM (Lacquered) 12/74
    689 - Leonardj (C) 7/66
    690 - thenightstalker (B) 12/64
    806 - Troubledshooter (B)
    808 - JM Uncoded blued 5 pin from 1970/71
    808 - Troubledshooter N/L N/C

    816 - CHJF177 (E) 7/75
    837 - dogsbody (E) 7/74
    873 - Ashf9999 (E)
    877 -Snodgrass (B)
    881 - Abasmajor (A)
    913 - CHJF177 N/C 3/73
    974 - Troubledshooter (B) 9/5
    994 - Jackieboy
    1172 - Jackieboy
    1239 - Jackieboy
    1273 - Ormicron (E)
    1295 - Leonardj (B) 11/65
    1391 - Micky (C)
    1398 - Troubledshooter (E) 12/8
    1504 - Ashf9999 (D)
    1539 - Micky
    1720 - CHJF177 (D) 5/68
    1815 - JM (C) 7/66
    1888 - Troubledshooter (D) 7/7
    1944 - CHJF177 (B) 1/66
    2072 - JM (D) 7/67
    3315 - Troubledshooter (D) 12/6
    4219 - Troubledshooter (D) 1/8

    Premier MK2
    319 - Troubledshooter
    382 - Ormicron
    398 - Webman
    451 - Webman
    474 - Ormicron
    582 - Lefrelon
    614 - Micky
    669 - Leonardj
    680 - jm
    891 - Johnbaz
    928 - Leonardj
    960 - Webman
    962 - Ashf9999

    Would you care to add yours to the list? The more we record the more chance we have of identifying a matched pair or "batch" of Webleys.

    John

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    H stamp on trigger guuard
    Land Owner and Proud Supporter of 2nd Amendment JT Magbe Contracting

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    Recently acquired Premier D series, number 3998.
    The South of England has 2 good things, the M1 and the A1. Both will take you to Yorkshire.

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    Webley MK1 398,454
    Webley Senior 124,1620
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    A webley collecting friend just asked me to pick up a Junior for him here in Norway, Batch number 328.

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    Smoothbore Junior batch 074
    .22" Senior batch 711 (same # as Leonardj's Junior)

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    Mk1. 126
    This isn't mine but will be coming to a valuation thread then sales thread very soon.
    Donald

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    my small contribution...

    Senior - 2395

    Premier B - 77. sure I saw that number near the top of the post list.

    Bru
    Webley Mk3 x2, Falcon & Junior rifles, HW35x2, AirSporter x2, Gold Star, Meteors x2, Diana 25. SMK B19, Webley Senior, Premier, Hurricane x 2, Tempest, Dan Wesson 8", Crosman 3576, Legends PO8.

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    webley junior mk2 batch 91. serial number 1475
    This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
    My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless.

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    Webley Premier mk 11

    I have a Premier mk11 no 647 in.177 marked 1554 on rhs of pistol grip and 647 on lhs
    Last edited by craig durant; 09-10-2015 at 06:58 PM.

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    Necropost

    Resurrecting this.

    Just acquired post-war Mark I. Batch 126 on front and under grip. "Birmingham 4" address (pre-58), and blued trigger, which the Bruce book suggests means it is early post-WW2, I think.

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    Another couple of Webley pistols have joined my family. Bought a slightly beaten up Senior, 1950's vintage with a missing rear sight and smashed breech seal, very weak spring. In .22" with nice clean rifling. Batch 927. I'll be restoring it soon and making a new rear sight.

    And my little brother wandered into an antiques shop on his lunch break last month one sunny Friday and first thing jumping to his eye was a nearly pristine Mark 1 from a bit earlier, probably late 1940's. Asking price was just $99 Canadian... but he offered $85 and the nice lady sold it for that. Heck of a bargain. The trigger is so nicely adjusted. Batch 294. In .177" with clean rifling and a tolerable crown. Weak, so I put a new flat wire mainspring in it and reversed the original leather breech seal, oiled that well, tested it at about 450fps with 7gr wadcutters.

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