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    Daystate Renegade

    The "big secret".

    It may share a resemblance to Daystate's beautifully styled Pulsar flagship precharged pneumatic. but the all-new Renegade is distinguishable by a secret hidden deep within its synthetic stock: its precharged action is mechanically-driven!

    In place of an electronic GCU [Gun Control Unit] and map-compensated firing cycle, the heart of the Renegade beats around the mechanical Harper-patented Slngshot Hammer system. as fitted to its popular Wolverine and Regal siblings. The result is an all-new rifle that shares many of the features equipped on the revolutionary Pulsar, but without all the computerised complexity and expense.

    Yet the Renegade is itself not devoid of ground-breaking features, not least it's Hybrid Trigger Unit [HTU). Historically, the bullpup design has delivered limitations with the trigger release due to the more forward location requiring inefficient levers that are detrimental to a good feel. With the electronic Pulsar, this problem was overcome. And Daystate has now extended its know-how to develop a hybrid electronic/mechanical trigger for the Renegade - the first system of its kind to be seen on a high-powered PCP air rifle, and marking an end to the age-old problem of a poor trigger let-off for mechanically-dnven bullpups.

    Powered by a single, readily available PP3 type 9-volt battery, the HTU simply transfers the trigger's movement via a wire to a small solenoid which, instantaneously, releases the normally-functioning sears toward the rear of the Renegade's action. In essence, it's an electronic, fly-by-wire system that brings the best of both worlds to the bullpup configuration.

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    .....and the price is ?

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    Just more from Daystate,then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by where's it gone View Post
    .....and the price is ?
    • Overall length - 780 mm (30 ins)
    • Cylinder Capacity - 300cc
    • Weight - 3.5kg (7.8 lbs)
    • Calibre .177, .22, .25
    • Power 12 to 38 foot pounds depending on calbre and specification
    • Shots per charge - TBC
    • Loading - Via reversible Sidelever
    • Magazine - 10 shot rotary or single shot via tray
    • Trigger - Hybrid electronic/mechanical
    • Stock options - Ballistic Nylon in black or green (Laminate in forest green or smoke soon)
    • RRP - £1,290.00
    • RRP FAC - £1,340.00

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    Oh dear.

    Cue Daystate bashing.

    I was right about a new bullpup and chassis sharing but this is very very tame.

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    £1300!!!!!

    Buy a compatto

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    I did have my fingers crossed for something more simple, more mechanical - a 'back to basics' kind of rifle. Something with a soul. This sounds like it's going to be another 'lay on your right arm until it's gone dead' kind of experience.

    Surely a company that invests in tecnology the way Daystate do could come up with a classic, a true world beater, priced to be available to the masses?

    All of the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonjon79 View Post
    I did have my fingers crossed for something more simple, more mechanical - a 'back to basics' kind of rifle. Something with a soul. This sounds like it's going to be another 'lay on your right arm until it's gone dead' kind of experience.

    Surely a company that invests in tecnology the way Daystate do could come up with a classic, a true world beater, priced to be available to the masses?
    Even I was hoping for a fresh new pneumatic design. Say a side lever, single or magazine fed replenish type rifle, along the lines of the FX Independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen K View Post
    • RRP - £1,290.00
    • RRP FAC - £1,340.00
    Too rich for my blood

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    There seems to be a demand form the fans, but a reluctance from Daystate, to launch a proper replacement for the MK4is - an "E Wolverine" of sorts with a proper target capability to give you something to be proud of on an HFT course. Instead we seem to be getting a quick string of guns with a top end price tag and a narrow appeal? I'm sure I must be wrong and the market research says these are what's neded, but I'm not really convincing myself of that one.

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    I was right on the last thread an electrically assisted mechanical bullpup
    well im unimpressed particularly by the price tag
    plus its butt ugly i know thats a personal choice thing
    Its not going to be any better than the compatto
    Another middle finger in the air from DS
    I shall be voting with my wallet
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    Not my cup of tea but each to there own, I'll stick with my Air-ranger for now. Although I'm sure this rifle is capable of great things I'm still not sold on the whole bull-pup design.
    IMO They had it right with the Mk3,Mk 4, air ranger/wolf, regal, etc.. That looks like a movie prop from aliens.
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    Having owned a Compatto for a couple of weeks now, I must admit that a gun costing nearly twice as much will most probably not perform twice as well as the brilliant value for money I have discovered with the Brocock. I have even finally received my additional two magazines and always look forward to shooting the gun, particularly in the standing position. Highly recommended!

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    Isn't this trigger very similar to the FWB 90 solenoid release trigger? It sounds interesting though.

    A.G

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermin Al View Post
    The "big secret".

    It may share a resemblance to Daystate's beautifully styled Pulsar flagship precharged pneumatic. but the all-new Renegade is distinguishable by a secret hidden deep within its synthetic stock: its precharged action is mechanically-driven!

    In place of an electronic GCU [Gun Control Unit] and map-compensated firing cycle, the heart of the Renegade beats around the mechanical Harper-patented Slngshot Hammer system. as fitted to its popular Wolverine and Regal siblings. The result is an all-new rifle that shares many of the features equipped on the revolutionary Pulsar, but without all the computerised complexity and expense.

    Yet the Renegade is itself not devoid of ground-breaking features, not least it's Hybrid Trigger Unit [HTU). Historically, the bullpup design has delivered limitations with the trigger release due to the more forward location requiring inefficient levers that are detrimental to a good feel. With the electronic Pulsar, this problem was overcome. And Daystate has now extended its know-how to develop a hybrid electronic/mechanical trigger for the Renegade - the first system of its kind to be seen on a high-powered PCP air rifle, and marking an end to the age-old problem of a poor trigger let-off for mechanically-dnven bullpups.

    Powered by a single, readily available PP3 type 9-volt battery, the HTU simply transfers the trigger's movement via a wire to a small solenoid which, instantaneously, releases the normally-functioning sears toward the rear of the Renegade's action. In essence, it's an electronic, fly-by-wire system that brings the best of both worlds to the bullpup configuration.

    http://www.daystate.com
    That's why they kept it a secret because they knew it would be a let down!!!
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