Hyper extending joint, that's simply where here elbow is fully extended.
Whilst browsing for 10M AP related things, I found this picture >>>CLICKY<<< of a young lady shooting her Steyr
What immediately struck me was her 'upward bent arm technique'
The competitor in the middle seems to be aiming in a rather more relaxed, or less strained method, while the furthest shooter seems to be using a fairly normal looking technique.
So how do you aim your pistol and what factors determine your aiming technique?
These fellows seem to use a fairly relaxed position, with the head not really too close to the top of the arm, and the arm looking not entirely 'locked-out'.
ATB, Paul
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Hyper extending joint, that's simply where here elbow is fully extended.
I used to do my lift and twist my arm clockwise before bringing the pistol back down onto target. This locks your elbow.
Try it. Point your arm straight out in front of you and look at your elbow joint. Now rotate your arm to the right (uf you are a righty) and now bring your wrist back round to firing position. You'll notice your elbow joint stays round to the right!
I found this made a difference when shooting prolonged sessions
Donald
Ok try this.
Get some pals both male and female to stand up straight with their hands by their sides with their palms facing to the rear, rotate arms until palms are facing forwards and look at the straightness of the arms.
Most males arms will remain straight, most female arms will angle outwards from the elbow like the competitor you posted. A specialist othopedic bone pal of mine recons it's natures way of clearing female hips while carrying something.
George
Some interesting comments there, thanks for the input
Donald, I'll give your advice a try and see what happens
I guess a few wayward flyers will be happening until familiarity is achieved
ATB, Paul
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The girl obviously has a funny elbow.
My Mrs has a similarly funny finger, though why she's never been tested for being a witch is anybody's guess.
The pistol shooter girl also looks to be exerting downward thumb pressure. That's a technical 'No No', but maybe she has a funny thumb as well.
HTH
She doesnt do anything different from the others; she stretches her arm until it wont go any further, but she is hypermobile and her joints can go further than normal.
My posture probably looks similar.
Elbows arent an issue in pistol shooting. You stretch yr arm out naturally.
Problem point is locking the wrist
ATB,
yana
its all a bit beyond me i keep getting distracted by the closest young lady. pete
ATB, Paul
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While working away at sea many years ago I had a chance to shoot air pistol with an engineer who was a Chinese Olympian. He shot with his elbow bent, really bent way off locked. Now all these years later and both my elbows full of arthritis I can no longer lock my elbow so shoot pistol both air and B/P with my elbow very bent like the Chinese guy and now realise how comfortable this is, even with my problems, and that even when I was fit how much of a strain it was locking the elbow out as I was taught.
Remember, it is the strongest character that God gives the most challenges.
When shooting internationally I see that alot of junior's use the hyper extended elbow position. I looked at using this shortly but found it very uncomfortable. I wonder how long this could be maintained through an extended shooting career??
I learnt many years ago with both pistol and rifle, that what is important is the result, and to never comment on a technique or position as right or wrong until you see the score sheet!!!
You will see many varied techniques and positions on the line at World Cups in all events, some that would make a coach cry, and often in the medals, they work for the person who uses them, maybe for you, but in most cases maybe not.
Remember that even people of similar build have different muscle and tendon structures, and physical variations.
Fads and fashions come and go!
Have Fun
Robin
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