1st time reloaded the 223

[Daveo]

Probably because of limited demand.
Looking on guntrader 300+ .223 for sale, 20 .17 hornets and 10
Yes 10 .22 hornet,
It's not the popular Calibre it once was

[anthony]

can we please get back to MY Topic thank you

[Blackbaronfish]

can we please get back to MY Topic thank you

I think its all relevant what's been said. You could be going down the reloading road for very little gain.
It all depends on what and how much your shooting.

BBF

[angrybear]

can we please get back to MY Topic thank you

Think of it like running a car, most people will say it does so many mpg, so "P" per mile is the price of a gallon divided by mpg, they forget the cost of tax, servicing, tyre wear, parking etc etc.

Most reloader's don't include the cost of equipment in the price per round because tools are an asset that last years or can be sold on if you stop.

So in consumables, bullets £25/100 = 25p each, primer 5p, powder maybe 10-15p, cases 28p ea but divided by the number of times they can be reloaded so ?? call it 50p per bang.

So you might save 20-50p per shot depending on what factory ammo you use but it will take 500-1000 shots to make back the initial outlay of equipment to make them.
but
The actual reloading can become a hobby in itself & doing the load testing is great fun if frustrating at times.

[anthony]

Think of it like running a car, most people will say it does so many mpg, so "P" per mile is the price of a gallon divided by mpg, they forget the cost of tax, servicing, tyre wear, parking etc etc.

Most reloader's don't include the cost of equipment in the price per round because tools are an asset that last years or can be sold on if you stop.

So in consumables, bullets £25/100 = 25p each, primer 5p, powder maybe 10-15p, cases 28p ea but divided by the number of times they can be reloaded so ?? call it 50p per bang.

So you might save 20-50p per shot depending on what factory ammo you use but it will take 500-1000 shots to make back the initial outlay of equipment to make them.
but
The actual reloading can become a hobby in itself & doing the load testing is great fun if frustrating at times.

thanks for your info and i just picked this lot up for a very good price
lee classic 4 hole turret press
hornady dies
100 223 cases
lee powder scales
lube and felt pad
lee case trimmer

[sparko]

thanks for your info and i just picked this lot up for a very good price
lee classic 4 hole turret press
hornady dies
100 223 cases
lee powder scales
lube and felt pad
lee case trimmer

Excellent, so all you need I'd your chosen bullet, powder & primers .... And instead of sleeping 8 hrs a night, you will manage 5 until you get your loads right ... All good clean fun ...😊

[anthony]

Excellent, so all you need I'd your chosen bullet, powder & primers .... And instead of sleeping 8 hrs a night, you will manage 5 until you get your loads right ... All good clean fun ...😊

i was thinking n133 powder + cci small rifle primers + 53 grn V-Max

[223AI]

Probably because of limited demand.
Looking on guntrader 300+ .223 for sale, 20 .17 hornets and 10
Yes 10 .22 hornet,
It's not the popular Calibre it once was

That's because people don't sell them on! It is as popular as the 17H and a lot of people are replacing the HMR with either hornet some preferring the new kid on the block some going the traditional route.

In terms of cost of reloading there really is nothing in it between 0.22H and 0.223 other than 7 - 15 grains of powder so not surprising cost is on a par.

[223AI]

thanks for your info and i just picked this lot up for a very good price
lee classic 4 hole turret press
hornady dies
100 223 cases
lee powder scales
lube and felt pad
lee case trimmer

i was thinking n133 powder + cci small rifle primers + 53 grn V-Max

Sounds good on the kit, maybe see if there is a way of using the turret press as a single stage press as you're new to all this you may be better doing each stage on its own to get familiar with it and whilst doing load development, then the multi stage function can be used for churnin out batches of ammo in one hit (provided you don't mind loading dirty brass).

Recipe sounds good, just need to start working up how much and how long now, I generally cross reference the load data on Viht and Nosler's websites to come up with my start and max loads . . .

[223AI]

The actual reloading can become a hobby in itself & doing the load testing is great fun if frustrating at times.

OP you have been warned! particularly if you start loading for more than one calibre for multiple disciplines

[anthony]

Sounds good on the kit, maybe see if there is a way of using the turret press as a single stage press as you're new to all this you may be better doing each stage on its own to get familiar with it and whilst doing load development, then the multi stage function can be used for churnin out batches of ammo in one hit (provided you don't mind loading dirty brass).

Recipe sounds good, just need to start working up how much and how long now, I generally cross reference the load data on Viht and Nosler's websites to come up with my start and max loads . . .

yha im going to start off loading as a single stage press
and as for the 100 223 brass there clean brass + im getting a Ultrasonic cleaner this week

[loiner1965]

best tip...buy good quality once fired brass

[DedIdick]

Sounds good on the kit, maybe see if there is a way of using the turret press as a single stage press as you're new to all this you may be better doing each stage on its own to get familiar with it and whilst doing load development, then the multi stage function can be used for churnin out batches of ammo in one hit (provided you don't mind loading dirty brass).

Recipe sounds good, just need to start working up how much and how long now, I generally cross reference the load data on Viht and Nosler's websites to come up with my start and max loads . . .

Easy to set the Lee turret press up as single station, probably the best way to use it unless doing volume pistol rounds. You can leave it set up with two calibres, Nae problemo.

[223AI]

Easy to set the Lee turret press up as single station, probably the best way to use it unless doing volume pistol rounds. You can leave it set up with two calibres, Nae problemo.

No experience with progressive presses but figured it would be

[223AI]

yha im going to start off loading as a single stage press
and as for the 100 223 brass there clean brass + im getting a Ultrasonic cleaner this week

Sounds good, my point was to use as a progressive press you go from fired case to loaded round in 4 (?) pulls on the arm, the brass doesn't leave the press so no chance to clean the case or more importantly the primer pockets, if you're using as a single stage no prob's.

With the US cleaner personally I wouldn't muck around with potions and recipes just buy a 5L bottle of seaclean 2 for £25 or thereabouts, does a grand job and will last ages!