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    .44 Le Mat Revolver and a Euroarms .44 R&S Revolver

    Might be listing a few items, if there is any interest, not sure what they are worth, looked at Henry Krank but that didn't help much these are ridiculously expensive new...

    .577 black powder 1861 Parker Hale Enfield percussion cap rifle cw RCBS .58 500gr Minnie Mould & Handles, Very Good condition

    .44 Le Mat Pietta 9 shot revolver with a shotgun barrel as new

    .44 6 shot percussion Euroarms of America revolver “Rogers & Spencer" Very good condition

    Thanks

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jock308 View Post
    Might be listing a few items, if there is any interest, not sure what they are worth, looked at Henry Krank but that didn't help much these are ridiculously expensive new...

    .577 black powder 1861 Parker Hale Enfield percussion cap rifle cw RCBS .58 500gr Minnie Mould & Handles, Very Good condition Jim
    Which version is it? Two band Musketoon? Two-band 'Naval' rifle or three-band? And is it a real Parker-Hale-made gun from the 60s,70s or 80s, or a Euro-Arms 'continuation model'?

    That matters a LOT, by a factor of around 30% in asking price. Genuine P-H-made products from Golden Hillock Road are very much sought after, their Italian successors much less so, nice though they might be.

    As for the other two, the rare LeMat in 99% condition is worth around £450 and the R&S about £200-ish.

    tac

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    Which version is it? Two band Musketoon? Two-band 'Naval' rifle or three-band? And is it a real Parker-Hale-made gun from the 60s,70s or 80s, or a Euro-Arms 'continuation model'?

    That matters a LOT, by a factor of around 30% in asking price. Genuine P-H-made products from Golden Hillock Road are very much sought after, their Italian successors much less so, nice though they might be.

    As for the other two, the rare LeMat in 99% condition is worth around £450 and the R&S about £200-ish.

    tac
    Hi Tac

    many thanks for the Info, how can I tell which version, think it is the 2 band musketoon but as to who made it? Have some good quality pics. Are there makers marks on this do you know. Sorry BP is not really my game.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jock308 View Post
    Hi Tac

    many thanks for the Info, how can I tell which version, think it is the 2 band musketoon but as to who made it? Have some good quality pics. Are there makers marks on this do you know. Sorry BP is not really my game.

    Jim
    The Musketoon is VERY short - like 40.25" overall.

    If it is made by Parker-Hale it will have the following marks/stamps on it -

    Lockplate - Left to right, behind cock Crown over P H, then 1861 over ENFIELD.

    Underneath - if you take the barrel out of the wood - NOT recommended unless you have already done it
    - underneath the barrel - BLACKPOWDER PROOF ONLY [or similar words] 3.5 DRAMS BP and sundry proof marks.

    Buttstock RHS - the circular Parker-Hale stamp in the wood.

    Left-hand side of breech - serial number - SHOULD be only FOUR digits to be a P-H.

    IF it is a genuine P-H in 1st class condition then it will be around £325 or so.

    A Euroarms version will be around £250-ish, as it does not usually have the progressive-depth rifling of the original - plus, it ain't a P-H.

    tac

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    Any pictures available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple G View Post
    Any pictures available?
    Cannot post pics here but can email, let me know if you want some and which gun.
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    The Musketoon is VERY short - like 40.25" overall.

    If it is made by Parker-Hale it will have the following marks/stamps on it -

    Lockplate - Left to right, behind cock Crown over P H, then 1861 over ENFIELD.

    Underneath - if you take the barrel out of the wood - NOT recommended unless you have already done it
    - underneath the barrel - BLACKPOWDER PROOF ONLY [or similar words] 3.5 DRAMS BP and sundry proof marks.

    Buttstock RHS - the circular Parker-Hale stamp in the wood.

    Left-hand side of breech - serial number - SHOULD be only FOUR digits to be a P-H.

    IF it is a genuine P-H in 1st class condition then it will be around £325 or so.

    A Euroarms version will be around £250-ish, as it does not usually have the progressive-depth rifling of the original - plus, it ain't a P-H.

    tac
    Many thanks for the info, it does have the crown with PH under it on the lock, although on closer inspection of the pictures it does have quite a few surface marks to the wood

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    Quote Originally Posted by jock308 View Post
    Cannot post pics here but can email, let me know if you want some and which gun.
    Jim
    PM sent with email details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple G View Post
    PM sent with email details.
    Pics sent

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    Le Mat now in the sales section with pics

    Jim

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    le mat

    hi
    is that a 20 bore shotgun under the 44 ?

    how is it listed on your fac ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellboy View Post
    hi
    is that a 20 bore shotgun under the 44 ?

    how is it listed on your fac ?

    Yes it is a 20 bore shotgun at the centre of the cylinder, it is just listed as a .44 muzzle loading pistol as a very short shotgun would be on FAC anyway.

    nice video on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5M-QQIOc5k

    Jim

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    what make is the La Mat

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    Full details in sales section. http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....44-BP-Revolver

    Thanks

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dellboy View Post
    what make is the La Mat
    Sir, the clue is in line 4 of the very first post..

    tac

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