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    Cheaper using a push pump to fill pcp's???

    Just back on the scene and I just saw a video of someone using a good hand pump to fill his pcp up, anyone else use a hand pump rather than a bottle?

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    I have a 3ltr bottle and recently bought a cheap 3 stage pump as back up. The pump works well, but you need to take it slow and steady for two reasons:
    1. The pump can overheat, which I've been told will cause the seals to go
    2. It's bloody knackering to fill your pcp (especially if you run it down low and have a large reservoir)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bop448 View Post
    Just back on the scene and I just saw a video of someone using a good hand pump to fill his pcp up, anyone else use a hand pump rather than a bottle?

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    You need to be careful that the pump has a filter to remove the water vapour to avoid corrosion damage to the internals of the gun.
    Scuba compressors have an elaborate system for this so that tanks are filled with dried, breathing air. Water and pollutants like hydrocarbons are removed.
    The better pumps may include a moisture pack for this purpose.

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    I used a Hills pump for 6 months after purchasing a PCP. Still use it quite regularly, it's good exercise.

    I once carried a 3L air bottle to a HFT competition shoot. Vibration in the car caused the valve to open slightly and by the end of the first day, the bottle had gone empty. I was very happy to have the Hills pump as a backup.

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    I used to have PCP's, I've reverted to springers nowadays. Filling from a cylinder is a much more relaxed way of going about it, but using a pump is very practical too.
    For rifles with an air tube reservoir it's can be pretty routine, but I've filled a few buddy bottles from empty, & you definitely need to take a deep breath before you do that.
    I've never noticed any issues with condensation, but I've always used a DriPac as well as the intrinsic water trap.

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    i use a hills pump,doesnt bother me its easy pump up if ya let pump do the hard work,divers bottle easier but shop is miles away from me n got no transport,also ya got get bottle checked over here n there which costs £,so ill stick to my pump.

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    I've used a Hills pump for probably 15 years now with no problems.

    Anyone who says it's hard work is a Jessie.
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    the chinese compressors seem fine these days, i would get a recently out of test diving bottle off the bay or so very cheap, even a 220bar would do no need for the 300bar, at least it will not put that much strain on the compressor so it will last for ages. completely independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krisko View Post
    the chinese compressors seem fine these days, i would get a recently out of test diving bottle off the bay or so very cheap, even a 220bar would do no need for the 300bar, at least it will not put that much strain on the compressor so it will last for ages. completely independent.
    That's a good suggestion but bear in mind there is a good reason for the regular testing of these bottles and using one which is out of date is definitely something you do at your own peril.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil384 View Post
    I've used a Hills pump for probably 15 years now with no problems.

    Anyone who says it's hard work is a Jessie.
    I've been using a hills pump for a few weeks & found it not too strenuous considering I'm 67 & 11 stone wet through!
    It's all about technique & using your weight not strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil384 View Post
    I've used a Hills pump for probably 15 years now with no problems.

    Anyone who says it's hard work is a Jessie.
    Is this a jessie in action

    https://youtu.be/KbbUAXjo13M?t=9

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    Amazing, he uses a metal framework and oak beam just like me!

    Oh, and do I spy socks and sandals
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    It is all down to the size of the tank you want to fill.
    For my Huntsman Classic: 70-80 pumps from my BSA/Hill mk3 for 114cc tank. Give or take 1 pump per shot. Very happy with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno27 View Post
    It is all down to the size of the tank you want to fill.
    For my Huntsman Classic: 70-80 pumps from my BSA/Hill mk3 for 114cc tank. Give or take 1 pump per shot. Very happy with that
    That depends what you're filling from & what to , on my AA510 it was 3 pumps per 2 shots, after first getting the pump up to pressure.

    For the OP yes a pump is a bit cheaper & provided the air is dry it's fine but a cylinder is so much easier.

    As for those Chinese compressors, by the time tax, shipping & import duty is paid the cost would cover filling a cylinder for best part of 10 years, & I doubt the compressor will last that long.

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    Thanks for all the comments guys, so really a pump ain't really too much cheaper than a bottle at the end of the day! I'd probably stick to a bottle haha

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