Others can manage to provide a break barrel in there range, so why can't AA ? are they to small a manufacturer ?
Anschutz 1427 .22LR Nikon Buckmaster SF 4.5-14x40, A-TEC Mod, Tikka M595 222Rem, Leupold 6.5-20x40LR, Howa 1500 APC 308Win, Nikko Diamond 6-24x50 FFP, wildcat Evolution, Sauer 202 243Win, Leupold 4.5-14x50LR, wildcat Evolution.
Others can manage to provide a break barrel in there range, so why can't AA ? are they to small a manufacturer ?
people don't want to shoot gimmicks, they want consistency and accuracy so the TX 200 does everything that can be asked of a boinger and for those that want a gimmicky boinger they can shoot the pro-sport. In my educated opinion the TX will outshoot anybody and can be tuned to such a degree that it is on par with a lot of PCP rifles. If you want break barrels then go for a weirhaurch break barrel or get a gammo if you're only throwing lead away.
Does anyone know how to contact doughnuts Anonymous cos I just cant seem to give them up and may be a 0 addict
It's complicated, but basically the Omega was a great rifle by 1979 standards, only it came out in 1984. The Tomahawk and Longbow would have been world-beaters any time before about 1988, but came out in 2000 and 2002. There were other underlying issues about Webley's business that meant it was on borrowed time since at least 1970 and arguably the 1920s.
Yes. This.
The old saying "speculate to accumulate" comes to mind and they are showing their faces at events to help sell more, like I said at the end of the day they have staff and bills to pay and nice cars to run, so they manufacture on the safe side to make sure that all happens, if they did want to properly commit and listen to their customers then they would bring out a break barrel, a left handed Prosport, make the Prosport cocking lever out of some other material and get rid of the wanky fishscale checkering, all the gripes everyone have been moaning about for the past few years, believe me I don't want or like to complain about one of my favorite British manufacturers but like what a lot of people have said they are not fully delivering to the faithful who worship the HFT ground they walk on and I can see why people do buy HWs instead.
Pete
Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in
Totally agree.
The thing is why are they still sending them out like they are, what it really needed was everyone who bought one in the first place to return them for fixing and then they would have soon properly fixed the problem when their profit margins got hit but as long as the lemmings keep buying them and fixing them themselves then they will keep churning them out as they are.
Pete
Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in
Webley like so many companies were strapped for cash, taxed to buggery, had poor management, were relying on dated machinery, and in old buildings. No investment, no dynamism, and relying on pile it high sell it cheep.
Manufacturing in the 70's was in decline for good reason, and the work force on the dole.
Much was lack of realising what the market wanted and only begrudgingly providing anything much at all. To sum up just look at the triggers.
Anyhow, AA know what they do well.
FWB brought out their Sport last year but still failed to give something as desirable as their old one! That was a clanger!
Speculate to accumulate is fine if you are making good profits and tax burden isn't extortionate. Think its the case most UK gun makers, after the initial investment, just about hang in there. No wriggle room to make a whopping mistake.
A little springer with all the "improvements" is a risk if its going to better whats already out there.
HW30? Did they always have a Rekcord trigger? Whatever I bought and sold a few years back didn't; skinny barrel too. Think they have made some changes??? Think the 99 a better bet?? Thankfully, I'm not in the market for one.
I wish mine had been that cheap! £425 to buy it - but already with CS800 stock, then a further £390 for a Lyn Lewington 25mm conversion and Colin Molloy refurb/reblue. Now it is gorgeous, sboots like my hw30s and puts out full power. Love it, but it's presently being treated a too precious for day-to-day. Heavy old bugger as well: that bullbarrel makes it very front-heavy😲😰
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Jerry
I not sure right now but I seem to remember the PE advertised in a old airgunworld I have for just under £200
I have been looking at the PE diagram and it looks like the shims that you mention look like two top hats that go in the barrel block holding the detent, it must be the immune to wear replaceable bushes that FPoole was talking about in post 39, but this means that although the barrel block would not wear the breech jaws would, Does anyone have any info about this as I have maintained in the past that Diana has the best breech/hinge setup but I am not familiar with the PE
Pete there’s no doubt about AAs commitment. You only have to see Claire at the events talking to shooters weekend in and out to see that.
But you aren’t going to see changes that a tiny % are mentioning out of the stacks of rifles they sell every day which would affect current lines and stock which is selling just fine anyway.
When we ran the April fools Claire said her line rang off the hook for two days solid. We had something like 10,000 reactions online to it across various media. But that’s it. 10,000 likes on forums etc doesn’t translate into 10,000 sales, more like 100 at best. And 2 days leaves 363 other days in the year.
Hft and ft are big sports as far as shooting goes but compared to what the average joe shoots and buys day in and day out they aren’t.
Honda didn’t get where it was making 900cc superbikes. It got there selling millions of c50 step throughs. And in the same way race bikes are only a relative of what are used on the street you wouldn’t doubt Hondas commitment because the fire blade doesn’t exactly fit your idea of how Marc Marquezs bike should be replicated. The chequering on a stock which most ft shooters don’t use is really of no concern.
If the things weren’t selling they’d change it. Or they’d remove it. The fact that it hasn’t changed and is being sold still suggests AA are quite happy that the level of tweaking the internet wants isn’t justified. And if it was I think you’d see a 3rd party offering a choice first.
Rob I totally agree what you and Tony are saying and I see where you are coming from, I don't doubt their commitment to the shooting sport at all and I've seen them many a time in the past giving rifles and gear away as prizes FOC to events, basically I'm backing up what you're saying, what I'm trying to explain is that the concerns and wants from the very tiny proportion of shooters (the ones who want a lefty PS and a steel PS underlever and a break barrel) are going on deaf ears because of the costs involved for very little gain and potential risk to the company (which I totally understand and wouldn't want them to make) BUT if they were fully 110% committed then they would offer the products but they don't need to, as like you say the rifles are flying off the shelves (a good thing to see in this current climate), now I'm totally happy with everything the PS has to offer (it could do with being a bit lighter but if that's going to upset it's excellent firing cycle then I'll leave it as it is) I've never had a problem with the alloy underlever and I'm not a freak of nature so don't require a lefty stock but the fishtail checkering could be changed at the press of a button and at no cost due to it being laser cut, I think the new skipline checkering on the PS stocks is beautiful.
At the end of the day if somebody like Tony Leach (our old compadre Bigtoe) was running the company then we'd see the changes and also have the 25mm short stroke internals (or smaller knowing him) back in the UK models as he would be pushing the envelope as far as he could and would want to see the customer get what they wanted.
Pete
Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in