Thinking about buying a HW95

[gtfreight]

I'm thinking about one of these in .177. I tried a .22 at the club on Sunday and was amazed how smooth it was and apparantly this was how it came out of the box.
Are they as smooth in .177?

[Trumpetier]

Most, if not all springers are nicer in .22 95,s, fine rifles. They can be made to shoot nice in .177, BUT a 95 in .22, will always be that little sweeter.

[Rocket launcher]

Mine is a .25 and its superb

[Rapidnick]

In a comparable state of tune a .177 rifle is inherently less smooth than the same rifle in .22. There is no avoiding this simple fact but I'm sure you will find the 95 in .177 does a fantastic job. One tip I would pass on is to use a reasonably heavy muzzle weight rather than a moderator. The HW mod is great on a pcp but too light on a springer.The HW95 to me gives the right blend of weight, size and performance for a legal limit air rifle. I like it so much I have 3-.177, .20 and .22. I know .25 legal limit is gaining in popularity but for my money I will confine my use of .25 to FAC power levels.

[Waisted]

Yes the Hw 95 in .177 has a very smooth and easy action when breaking and loading,but has a lot of muzzle flip when firing over 10.5 ft/ lbs. The .22 is a lot nicer to shoot and just as easy to break and load. The Hw 98 is better still with shrouded barrel and adjustable cheek piece but a tad more exspensive.

[CapitalBee]

.177 is inherently less smooth than .22 but you will find the 95 in .177 does a fantastic job. One tip I would pass on is to use a reasonably heavy muzzle weight rather than a moderator. The HW mod is great on a pcp but too light on a springer.

I got around this by fitting a Konceptus all steel screw on silencer

[Trumpetier]

I use steel Parker Hale silencers on 95,s. They work well also

[Rapidnick]

I got around this by fitting a Konceptus all steel screw on silencer

Agreed. Weight at the front makes all the difference in the world.
I use steel weights (made by Jonny Neate on here) or on my .177 95, I'm lucky to have a Venom Slimtech with extra brass inserts (as supplied with the Venom Hornet) but they all work really well in adding weight to the front to moderate any tendency to flip.

[Rapidnick]

Yes the Hw 95 in .177 has a very smooth and easy action when breaking and loading,but has a lot of muzzle flip when firing over 10.5 ft/ lbs. The .22 is a lot nicer to shoot and just as easy to break and load. The Hw 98 is better still with shrouded barrel and adjustable cheek piece but a tad more exspensive.

I know what you mean about the 98. The stock is great but personally I don't like the shroud. It certainly adds weight at the front which is essential but just makes the rifle that bit too heavy. I want the extra weight right at the front not along the entire length of the barrel.

[Waisted]

I have just had a look at the Konceptus moderators on their web site very well priced but what is the quality like and is their customer service trustable.

[gtfreight]

Thanks for all your advice everyone.
Emma also had a go with the gun and liked it plus she found it easier to cock than my break barrel and the weight of the gun suited her.
I think I need to try a standard .177 before I commit. The gun will be mainly for Emma to use as she feels she needs to stop using her pcp so much at the Boinger Bash.

[CapitalBee]

I have just had a look at the Konceptus moderators on their web site very well priced but what is the quality like and is their customer service trustable.

I have bought about 4 moderators from them previously and all have been good quality and took about 7-10 days to deliver from order. They also do a 'glue on' steel silencer which works as well without the hassle of getting a 1/2" UNF thread on your barrel.

[Lone wolf 2LI]

Mine is a .25 and its superb

Very nice indeed!
Have you left the internals standard or have you short stroked it by any chance?

I presume its sub 12 ft/lb?

Im looking at getting a 95 in .20 but will in the future source a .25 barrel as i would love to use .25 on my local rabbit population

[Lone wolf 2LI]

In regards to muzzle flip on the .177 95 i have a theoben evolution vortex thats waiting to be paired up with a 95.

They have some weight in and the internals can be tinkered with.

The theoben mod is 15.9mm so a slight bit of the 16mm barrel will have to be reduced to fit but well worth the effort i think, looks great and serves a purpose

[Rapidnick]

In regards to muzzle flip on the .177 95 i have a theoben evolution vortex thats waiting to be paired up with a 95.

They have some weight in and the internals can be tinkered with.

The theoben mod is 15.9mm so a slight bit of the 16mm barrel will have to be reduced to fit but well worth the effort i think, looks great and serves a purpose

I certainly wouldn't use one of these on a 95. It is rather large for its weight and I think doesn't look good on a 95 which suits something slim and heavy. As a moderator it is OK on a pcp and, as you say, can be considerably improved by changing the internal parts. It isn't worth it on a 95 where you want weight to calm muzzle flip rather than taming an air blast. Bear in mind that the bulk of the noise from a springer is not from the air blast but the mechanical noise of the piston slamming forward.
By the way the 95 is good in .20 so I wish you luck when you get yours.