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Adam Partridge Auctioneers - Jan 18/19: The Reginald J Cheetham Collection
QUESTION ... dearly beloved - forgive my ignorance,
but what is this at the forthcoming Adam Partridge sale jan 18/19 ?
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...7-a84a0116c9ba
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I note there are Webleys and BSAs (and even the odd Bugelspanner and Bonehill) amongst the rifles,
and I even recognise the Lincoln Jeffries and I am sorely tempted Oh heavenly father:
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...f-a84a0116dd87
Forgive me, but for some unknown reason i also truly lust after this (and it doesn't even shoot!!!):
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...e-a84a01168999
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But sadly, the only thing I WILL be bidding on is this - so HANDS OFF (please - its just a junker) - its a sentimental thing...
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...b-a84a0116b442
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[QUOTE=chieffool;7406777]Adam Partridge Auctioneers - Jan 18/19: The Reginald J Cheetham Collection
QUESTION ... dearly beloved - forgive my ignorance,
but what is this at the forthcoming Adam Partridge sale jan 18/19 ?
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...7-a84a0116c9ba
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I think it's a Bedford Eureka.
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Is it a Pope?Originally Posted by chieffool
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Not a Pope (no bolt on a pope), and i think Garvin is correct: Bedford Eureka, but missing the spring and retainer end-piece for the 'charging plunger' under the barrel. Don't laugh at my description (as have no idea what the actual parts would be called) - but, let's be honest, even Buck Rogers would want one of these!
Or would it be more suitable for John Carter of Mars?
Meanwhile: hands off the broken Cub Gat mentioned above (pleeeease)! Surely none of you serious collectors are going to be interested in bidding. I mean, afterall - where's the original box!
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Its a Pope....
https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/49...er-6241523.jpg
Edit ....
Chief's right its a Eureka.
http://www.muzzle.de/N7/Druckluft/Be...er_eureka.html
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[QUOTE=Garvin;7406805]lt sure is a Bedford & Walker Danny, and there are a few variations of it.
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My tatty Pope as a comparison.
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[QUOTE=micky2;7406862]Just to clarify - it was 'me' (chieffool) that asked what it was...
...and it was 'Danny' (Garvin) who i think suggested the correct identity of Bedford Eureka
...wasn't it?
MY NEXT QUESTION (bearing in mind it seems obviously to be missing the 'bottom-bit-on-the-plunger-thingy-under-the-barrell') is, IF i end up buying this - has anyone got one they can send me various pics of so i can make the replacement part?
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It is the first version Eureka, typified by its lack of trigger guard, and it is quite a bit rarer than the later Eurekas with trigger guard, which are more usually referred to as "Bedford and Walkers". This first version also has a more slender plunger rod than the others. Unfortunately in this version the knob missing from the plunger is not just a simple knob but also slides over the barrel, so it is a bit difficult to replace. Not impossible though, and well worth the hassle given the rarity of the pistol. The upper example shows a replacement slider that I made, and the lower example shows a pistol with its original slider.
I would happy to send you details .
PS: Can also help you with details for restoring that British Cub should you want them.
Last edited by ccdjg; 05-01-2018 at 06:52 PM.
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WOW. Seriously Impressive work.
I was thinking of possibly recreating as a casting in aluminium (based on other pics of the 'coarser' plunger ends i saw on another site), but now realise from your pics that this First version (without trigger guard) is more of a challenge. I like a challenge, but trying to work out how on earth you managed to make yours?
Haven't managed to 'win it' yet - though notice already bids coming in.
Grrrr (curses)
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I'm afraid the surest way to enourage rival bids is to draw attention to it... sad but true.
Haven't managed to 'win it' yet - though notice already bids coming in.
Grrrr (curses)
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..Above link posted with permission from Gareth W-B
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Anyone know what this is?
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/a...1-a84a0115d82e
I found that the makers have made pistols before but cant find much about any rifles.
The only thing I can think of is that it was made to commemorate the Olympics in 1936 Nazi Germany (Hence the Olympia Mod 36).
Looks nice but I would guess it shoots bb's(?)
So not my thing really.
Although I am eyeing up some of them BSA's........
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I know. But realistically 'they' are going to find out anyway - and at least we all get to chat about it.I'm afraid the surest way to enourage rival bids is to draw attention to it... sad but true.
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It looks to be the same 4.4mm lead BB 'Rifled' action that are used in the Anshutz mod 275 to me!
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[QUOTE=micky2;7406862]I've just had a 'full circle' moment - because while chatting through another thread:
http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....e-from-and-Why
SEE post #19
...I've just realised that the Bedford (Walker?) Eureka referred to in my original question at the start,
is the 'Eureka Air pistol' patented by Mr Henry Quackenbush June 6th, 1871.
I just find it so odd that Mr Q would choose to call his patent 'Eureka' - and all that word implies when applied to the concept of original thought.
Was this so radical?
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