Pax to stop making the phoenix rifle.

[DCL_dave]

I have both the mk2 phoenix and ff10. Both are more capable than i can ever be. I will say though the full length barrel phoenix is a tad more accurate than my ff10. I am on the look out for a .22cal carbine next to complete the pax collection. Agree with you dave they are fabulous guns.

The action on my old Phoenix carbine was very slick and quick, honed through a lot of use I guess, it almost became an extension of me that inspired the fun of shooting for me, and filled me with the confidence to shoot that particular gun quite well...I would never claim to be a very good shot but then I didn't have to be...that gun made it easy for me be good enough for my own enjoyment and I knew where the shot was going with a split seconds thought...and that coke can was going to get a good bashing no matter what! ...The short throw lever on the Phoenix lends itself to very rapid fire by simply opening and closing the hand, with no movement from the wrist backward to affect aim...and this is where the swinging pistol grip cocking design on the FF10 falls a little short for me as it requires movement extending back to the shoulder the cock and fire it, feels a bit flappy too and not as positive as the Phoenix. Not as pretty but I do much prefer the stubby front end on the FF10 though, with a vertical grip mounted on the rail it makes for a very short and stable shooting position.

I have a FF10 in .177 for a number of years now and it’s on par with my HW100 on the accuracy front but a lot more fun to shoot. It’s definitely a keeper. I am very surprised they are not more popular as they are a fantastic piece of engineering.

Handling and looks I guess?...The gun may feel odd to some - air bottle is in the stock so the weight is shifted backwards, the pistol grip area is slightly fatter than most other guns due the neck of the bottle passing through it but I found it perfect for my big hands so it suited me just fine.

Couple other observations whilst the memory is being jogged

There is a short, raised section of wood inside fore-end stock piece on the MK2 Phoenix that braces quite firmly against barrel...when the forend was removed from my Phoenix the POI dropped by 3" or more IIRC!...Don't know why but I had the idea to remove the raised section and made the barrel fully free floating from the breech/action...this seemed to make a very marginal increase in accuracy but If I had another I'm not sure that I'de bother doing it.

You can use a MK1 PH bottle on a MK2 Pax Phoenix but this only works one way....you can not use MK2 Pax Phoenix bottle on a MK1 Parker Hale.

[eyebull]

What are the Mk2 Phoenix' like in .177?

I've wanted one of these for years, it might be time to finally pull the trigger.

[DCL_dave]

What are the Mk2 Phoenix' like in .177?

I've wanted one of these for years, it might be time to finally pull the trigger.

Shouldn't comment as I never owned one in .177...But my guess is even more fun at potentially half the ammo costs...or not as the case may be depending if you really want to pepper the target

[gingernut]

What are the Mk2 Phoenix' like in .177?

I've wanted one of these for years, it might be time to finally pull the trigger.

Brilliant.

I had the .177 carbine with the quick fill bottle for a couple of years.
Reliable accurate and good power.

3/9/40 scope was all I ever used.

I bought it as it was only 18 months old and a bargain.
I thought I might not like the balance but you soon get used to it.

Silly to sell it on but profit appealed.

Unique and a credit to Mr Earl and his team.

[gwyn]

Perhaps SMK could buy this one?a UK manufactured rifle?
It could become a Milbro Phoenix?
Don.

[Westy_Boy]

I was emailing Hugh at Pax today regarding ordering some parts for one of my Phoenix rifles. He confirmed that they are/have ceased production. They have two .22 rifles left in stock then that's it by the sounds of it.

I have just ordered a quick fill kit for mine before they run out of them.

The reason given was that they are just too expensive to make.

[eyebull]

Bugger. I'll have to look out for a 2nd hand one in .177 then.

[oneseven]

That's a great pity. I have a carbine mk2 and a fast fire 10. Both are a lot of fun. Part of me wants to buy one of those last two and keep it in it's box! That would be a silly idea though. Someone needs to buy them and use them!

[KeithW]

What are the Mk2 Phoenix' like in .177?

I've wanted one of these for years, it might be time to finally pull the trigger.

Quite simply - great! I have the carbine version in both calibres. If I was buying another I'd probably get the rifle length one, if only for the shot count.

[WILBA]

They are all out of .177cal. Only .22cal left. Guessing they made more .22cal anyway so the .177cal will be rarer in the future. But he did say they have plenty of parts to service the guns that are out there.

[Westy_Boy]

They are all out of .177cal. Only .22cal left. Guessing they made more .22cal anyway so the .177cal will be rarer in the future. But he did say they have plenty of parts to service the guns that are out there.

I did ask if they had spares they were looking to sell off, and whether they would still be servicing, the response I got was "Yes, we still have most parts which are used to service the rifles, but none that we want to dispose of."

The 'most parts' is a bit of a worry I suppose.