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    For fun Holt's Wiscombe how much?

    Guess the hammer price when it goes down!
    Just for fun.
    http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com...123492&image=3

    £2,200.00

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    depends if one of our USA friends spots it...
    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    £3,350.00 and 86p!

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    You're all mad. Hammer price: £1850.

    It's 'only' the break-barrel version.

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    Only $4995.00 for JW70

    https://airgunwarriors.com/yellow-ai...-70-mkii-fb-22

    Looks minty though.
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    Looked at this holts fees seem mad 30% buyers fee plus 20% vat so if the hammer falls at say £2000 ie £1100 in fees thats
    if i read it right ?

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    Hi if you right and i got it wrong its still way over the top me thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by partner k1250 View Post
    Looked at this holts fees seem mad 30% buyers fee plus 20% vat so if the hammer falls at say £2000 ie £1100 in fees thats
    if i read it right ?
    There's a huge amount of misinformation about

    From our website

    BUYERS PREMIUM
    Holt's charge a premium to the buyer on the hammer price of each lot sold at the following rates:

    25% up to and including £100,000
    20% in excess of the hammer price above £100,000
    VAT is payable on the premium at the applicable rate.

    Under each Lot entry in the online catalogue, there is a buyers premium calculator.

    The sellers fee is much less but varies based on the number/value of guns, this covers the reps visits, valuations, transporting thousands of guns around the country, catalogues, websites, insurances and a fair few staff to make the big day with drinks and canapes function properly

    Its not ideal for everyone but for high value guns or significant collections its probably the best way to generate maximum value in a short timescale.

    You can see the exact all in cost with the calculator under every auction lot online

    So based on your £2000 using the calculator

    What is the total payable?

    Enter Hammer price £ = £2000
    VAT on Hammer Price = 0
    Buyer's Premium = £500
    VAT on Buyer's Premium = £100
    Total Payable = £2,600
    So the buyers premium is £500 (not £1100) or 25%, the VAT goes the the government not us.
    Last edited by RichardH; 14-03-2018 at 11:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nurek View Post
    also the seller has to pay fees which are at minimum the same as the buyer, so on a £2000 sale they'll make around £1k if not more...
    That's absolutely not the case the sellers fee is much less and covers the costs as above
    A man can always use more alcohol, tobacco and firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nurek View Post
    I have asked about selling some of my gear and was told 15% + VAT on the first £1000 and 10% + VAT on the remaining amount...

    Ok, you're right the seller does pay less, the total fee to the seller would be £300 if the gun sold for 2k... the buyer pays 600 extra, which still means that the gun is effectively 50% more expensive
    Everything depends on the hammer price, we have a lot of buyers in a lot of countries, if you look at what quality collections of airguns make on sale day its often double what you would get selling privately and massively more than trying to sell a collection to an RFD in one hit.

    As long as you can agree a reserve that your comfortable with, all the risk is with us to sell it at a good price?
    A man can always use more alcohol, tobacco and firearms.

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    A good few people think nothing of paying £2K-£3K, even £6K on a shotgun. What price a pretty fab air rifle? The better, more sophisticated, ones have as much engineering as any shotgun.

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    Apologies for straying a bit off thread, but I notice Holts also have a refinished Webley Mk2 Service on offer in the rarer .25 calibre with matching Ser No to the barrel.

    The refinish will no doubt put many off, but it will be interesting to see if it reaches anything close to the estimate.

    http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com...4559&saletype=

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    If its not pitted its straightforward to strip the enamel and polish and reblack to the original finish spec...

    Might have a punt myself if it goes for the lower estimate
    A man can always use more alcohol, tobacco and firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardH View Post
    If its not pitted its straightforward to strip the enamel and polish and reblack to the original finish spec...

    Might have a punt myself if it goes for the lower estimate
    Are you allowed to bid at an auctioneers you work for?

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