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    Hardest gun to strip?

    We have all had a nitemare gun to strip due to failure or fettling attempts. But after years of stripping guns I was handed a Walther cp88 by a mate that wouldn't fire, with limited help online I decided to have a go. After several hours and a lot of swearing I've finally got it working again, so many springs and moving parts that sprang out when pulling apart, what I complete bastard of a gun. What's yours?

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    I've never stripped one but the park rifle RH series, looked a complete bitch
    I had a look at one in a gunshop once and it had a bmx chain as a cocking lever.
    I remember really struggling to get an original trigger back together
    It was full of ball bearings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peddy View Post
    We have all had a nitemare gun to strip due to failure or fettling attempts. But after years of stripping guns I was handed a Walther cp88 by a mate that wouldn't fire, with limited help online I decided to have a go. After several hours and a lot of swearing I've finally got it working again, so many springs and moving parts that sprang out when pulling apart, what I complete bastard of a gun. What's yours?
    Funnily enough it was a Walther CP88 for me too! The hammer spring had broken on this one so I took it to Richard Spencer at Target Technics who wouldn't touch it and told me to send it to the manufacturer, specifically warning me not to try it myself. Well, I did anyway and managed to do the job, but like you say they're like a pocket watch inside!

    Cheers
    Greg

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    Webley Omega. Stripped it down recently to send off to be re-blued, and the trigger was an absolute bugger. I'm really not looking forward to putting that back together....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreg View Post
    Funnily enough it was a Walther CP88 for me too! The hammer spring had broken on this one so I took it to Richard Spencer at Target Technics who wouldn't touch it and told me to send it to the manufacturer, specifically warning me not to try it myself. Well, I did anyway and managed to do the job, but like you say they're like a pocket watch inside!

    Cheers
    Greg
    I feel better that Richard wouldn't touch one, you are right it did resemble a watch movement , sure I counted 8 springs. How the hell do they make these on an assembly line???!!

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    Original 35 Super

    The only one I had to go to someone with, with the 'bag of bits'
    Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartcliffer View Post
    Webley Omega. Stripped it down recently to send off to be re-blued, and the trigger was an absolute bugger. I'm really not looking forward to putting that back together....
    There's a really good "how to" guide for the Omega trigger somewhere. It was actually done for a Theoben which used the same trigger group as the Omega/Eclipse/Patriot but it's relatable for the Webley.

    If you Google it or search the Collectable section you'll find it.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thegreg View Post
    Funnily enough it was a Walther CP88 for me too! The hammer spring had broken on this one so I took it to Richard Spencer at Target Technics who wouldn't touch it and told me to send it to the manufacturer, specifically warning me not to try it myself. Well, I did anyway and managed to do the job, but like you say they're like a pocket watch inside!

    Cheers
    Greg
    Not rifle related but when you said pocket watch it reminded me of the time I took the cap off the top of one of the injectors in my fiat van whilst trying to fix a fault with it... Holly crap I've never shrunk in confidence so fast . As you say.. billions of really small parts and as Tinbum puts it, there's always "f*** it" spring that pings off with atleast one or more other tiny parts which you never had chance to see how they fitted. The engineer who spent a day and eventually fixed it said very politely to me "don't do that again Rhys will you"
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    Interestingly I recently did a CP88 and had no problems at all.

    The issue that gave me most thought on what was wrong/caused it: a FWB300 with the sidelever stuck open. Eventually tracked it down to a worn ratchet bar.
    Item I had to have lunch and ponder over: An early Air Arms trigger unit from a sidelever. The first time I did it several years prior to this time, I had no problems at all but on this occasion I just got it wrong. Got it right eventually.
    A CO2 pistol from auction (can't remember model) ... stripped, corrected a seal and rebuilt as it had come apart, but it would not work. Eventually puzzled out that 'a person' had taken it apart before me and re-assembled it incorrectly. Ten minutes later all was well.

    There were others that took time but were eventually sorted.
    Cheers, Phil

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    Stripping them never seems to be an issue for me; Reassembly sometimes is though!
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    Not a gun but the magazine for a Kral NP02 Puncher.

    I dropped mine and dislodged the tension spring. Despite there only being FIVE parts it took me (and a couple of other club members) nearly 30 minutes to get it working again. (I know the secret now. )

    I was once told to strip Daystate magazines in a plastic bag.

    I nearly suffocated.

    ATB
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    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Not a gun but the magazine for a Kral NP02 Puncher.

    I dropped mine and dislodged the tension spring. Despite there only being FIVE parts it took me (and a couple of other club members) nearly 30 minutes to get it working again. (I know the secret now. )

    I was once told to strip Daystate magazines in a plastic bag.

    I nearly suffocated.

    ATB
    Ian
    That says more about our club members than it goes the magazine!😉
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    A CP88/92fs strip-down & reassembly DVD from T. R. Robb is available on e**y for less than £5.....or it was when I bought mine. I've watched it and it looks fairly straightforward to follow. £5 well-spent if you need to strip one.

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    You Tube and Umarex Boys Club are your friend for Umarex pistols.

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    When you have done a few of the Umarex pistols you can develop an assembly technique. The easiest are the CP88 and 1911, the Beretta a bit more fiddly. I use two things that help a lot, a tiny dab of glue and a foot of dental floss ! I have worked on a few hundred airguns and the hardest so far I think is the Logun Sweet 16.
    Others are the Anschutz model 250 with hydraulic damping, the Original 66 trigger assembly.

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