45/70 powders

[tim56]

Just found I can no longer get H4198 powder which I use in my Marlin 1895 sbl. 26 gens with a home cast 405 gin bullet made from
old wheel weights works a treat. Accurate with enough hmph to be interesting but not excessively heavy on the shoulder recoil wise.
So what would you recommend as an alternative.?

[mag44uk]

N120 or D060.

[aspen]

Reloader 7 or if you can source some IMR 4198 work well in 45/70
And Alliant 2400 works very well for cast down loads.

Aspen

[Thegreg]

I posted the same question about a year ago as I wanted to migrate my .45/70 to Viht powder.

I had very good results with N130 as a replacement for 4198 in "full power" loads.

D060 is fine for downloads if that's what you want.

Cheers
Greg

[kennyc]

Unique is apparently good for that round

[physeptone]

I used to use Accurate Arms 5744 when available, great stuff.

I tried Reloader 7(?) when i ran out if the 5744- kick was brutal!

[tim56]

Thanks for the replies. I like a stout load but not too brutal. 26grns of H4198 was perfect with my home cast 405grn bullets.
Reloader 7 looks promising along with N120. Im now completely out of H4198 so will have a ride to Wragby this weekend.
ps, 12 grns of Unique works ok but not as accurate as my old powder.

[Pengo]

Thanks for the replies. I like a stout load but not too brutal. 26grns of H4198 was perfect with my home cast 405grn bullets.
Reloader 7 looks promising along with N120. Im now completely out of H4198 so will have a ride to Wragby this weekend.
ps, 12 grns of Unique works ok but not as accurate as my old powder.

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with this, as I'm getting to the point where I'll be thinking along the same lines, before too long.

[mag44uk]

Just checked my notes for my 1885 Uberti.

405gn 26.8GN 2400 av 1570fps
340gn 26.8gn 2400 av 1630fps
535gn 25.5gn 5744 av 1150fps
420gn 26gn 5744
420gn 30gn 5744
535gn 28.3gn N120

[Elwellaxe]

I use 23grn v110 in my trapdoor with 405 cast & 22grn with 500grn cast, I used the same loads with 2400 but the 110 works out cheaper, can't see any difference in point of aim or accuracy. I never got Unique to shoot well but I like it in 44mag.
Elwellaxe.

[tim56]

Update. Went over to A and A gunsmiths to fetch my little Rossi .357 back after a repair and slick up job and asked Alan
if he had N120 in stock. Explained I was looking for a replacement powder for 45/70 as I couldn't get hold of H4198. He
says iv got 2 pots of H4198 on the shelf. Sold, so am now ok for a while. One of the guys I shoot with has the same SBL
Marlin and he is using N120 which seems to shoot very well.
Thanks for all the input. As a foot note I cant recommend A and A enough, first time iv used them and well impressed with
their helpful manner and prices. The Rossi is now as slick as a slick thing from slicksville.! Tim

[Creedmoor]

Have you tried Reload Swiss?
If not get some RS 30 / RS40
All of there powder is REACH compliant too .

45 - 70 Govt. 250 Hornady MonoFlex Starline LR RWS 5341 RS40 43,0 1594 1088 56,0 2155 2024 600mm (1:20") 65,4
45 - 70 Govt. 250 Barnes TSX FM FB Starline LR RWS 5341 RS40 44,0 1608 1017 57,0 2208 1962 600mm (1:20") 64,0
45 - 70 Govt. 300 Barnes TSX FN FB Starline LR RWS 5341 RS40 40,0 1398 926 51,0 1962 1968 600mm (1:20") 64,0
45 - 70 Govt. 325 Hornady FTX Hornady LR RWS 5341 RS40 42,5 1460 987 52,0 1968 1950 600mm (1:20") 65,5
45 - 70 Govt.