Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 34567 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 75 of 114

Thread: Sharp Innova

  1. #61
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Maulden, Bedfordshire
    Posts
    626
    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Or one for the Gowers Phantom - “a unique baffle system which... in field test had shown a marked steering effect on the pellet, improving its ballistic performance, resulting in tighter groupings and overall improved accuracy”.
    Written by my old man, he always had a poetic streak

  2. #62
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hollesley, near Woodbridge
    Posts
    2,957
    One thing's for sure, without a silencer, they go off with a hell of a crack
    Custom BSA S10 .22 PAX Phoenix Mk 2 .22 Custom Titan Manitou .22 (JB BP) HW77 .22 FWB Sport Mk1 .22 Sharp Ace .22 Crossman 600 .22 Berretta 92 .20 Desert Eagle .177

  3. #63
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Bristol
    Posts
    571
    I think it was ‘pump up’ guns like the Innova etc that sparked the interest in recoil free air guns which kick started the PCP, bought my Innova in the 80’s and still have it, also had the Sharp Ace but sold it as I preferred the Innova.

  4. #64
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hollesley, near Woodbridge
    Posts
    2,957
    Quote Originally Posted by emin-j View Post
    also had the Sharp Ace but sold it as I preferred the Innova.
    Interesting, I much preferred the Ace just becuase there was alot less plastic
    Custom BSA S10 .22 PAX Phoenix Mk 2 .22 Custom Titan Manitou .22 (JB BP) HW77 .22 FWB Sport Mk1 .22 Sharp Ace .22 Crossman 600 .22 Berretta 92 .20 Desert Eagle .177

  5. #65
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Blackburn, Lancs. (under a bridge)
    Posts
    22,944
    Quote Originally Posted by MartynB View Post
    Interesting, I much preferred the Ace just becuase there was alot less plastic
    Both are let down with an indifferent trigger which gets harder the more you pump.
    Founder & ex secretary of Rivington Riflemen.
    www.rivington-riflemen.uk

  6. #66
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hollesley, near Woodbridge
    Posts
    2,957
    Quote Originally Posted by I. J. View Post
    Both are let down with an indifferent trigger which gets harder the more you pump.
    Agreed, but it can be improved on a bit, I used to polish mating faces, coat with molycote and bake off then burnish with an old leather belt, not great but improved
    Custom BSA S10 .22 PAX Phoenix Mk 2 .22 Custom Titan Manitou .22 (JB BP) HW77 .22 FWB Sport Mk1 .22 Sharp Ace .22 Crossman 600 .22 Berretta 92 .20 Desert Eagle .177

  7. #67
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Swansea
    Posts
    5,114
    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Pretty sure, indeed, that Galway made an Innova silencer and adaptor. I think a few others did too.

    As Louis suggests, they had a burst of popularity in the early 80s.

    Despite the rise over here of German springers, the late 70s saw a small fad for American pumpers, like the Sheridan, Crosman (including the much hyped Whaley/Marshall “customs”) and the Benjamin.

    Compared to them, when introduced in 1979 or 1980, the Innova was short (34”), light (4.5 lbs), and in U.K. form only needed four pumps to make maximum power.

    The US guns were typically a bit longer and heavier (Sheridan/Benjamin 37” and 6lbs) or much flimsier at similar weights to the Innova (Crosman 766/2200 - about 5 lbs). And they all needed 8-10 pumps to approach 12 ft-lbs.

    In those pre-PCP days, a really light, recoilless, accurate, full-power carbine had a lot going for it in many people’s eyes.

    At least one individual used an Innova a bit in early FT. I can’t recall if he developed biceps like Arnie or nearly had a heart attack, or something in between, but he did prove that a 40-shot course of fire and a pumper, even an Innova, were not the best combination.

    If you are of a certain generation (mine) you will always have a soft spot for the Innova, whether you owned one or not, and despite its shortcomings.
    i remember buying buying a benjamin as a 17yr old. one hunting trip later i returned to our local gunshop and traded it for a hw35 export. they were buggers to pump up the benjamin's. my right arm never had such a hammering the innova was not so hard but id still not want to take one out on a days hunting. break barrel springer is so much easier. but i do love my litttle backpacker and 1377 as they are so easy to pump up.

  8. #68
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Swansea
    Posts
    5,114
    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Looking at an Air Logic ad from 1985 - “NO PLASTIC OR PVC NO COTTON WOOL NO BITS OF WIRE”; instead an “everlasting maintenance-free sound soaking turbulence chamber”.

    Or one for the Gowers Phantom - “a unique baffle system which... in field test had shown a marked steering effect on the pellet, improving its ballistic performance, resulting in tighter groupings and overall improved accuracy”.

    Both of which were available for the Innova.

    I think some of those guys back then were better at writing adverts than they were at actually designing suppressors.

    Let’s not even mention the monstrosity that was the Ox Neutraliser.
    i have a small tapered air logic mod on my park rh92.

  9. #69
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    gateshead
    Posts
    25,965
    lovely collection you have there bud

  10. #70
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    Posts
    1,854
    An attempt to keep this thread alive.
    Did some carving yesterday, inspired by a US Benjamin collector who has just made an amazing display for his collection.
    It is far from perfect but as Ped commented, it has got a human touch






  11. #71
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    Posts
    1,854
    Ps. Has anyone seen screws in the pump handle like on the bottom Innova, a .177 "MkI"?
    I wondered if they are a modification, or original. In any case, I think it's well done.

  12. #72
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Scarborough
    Posts
    470
    I've never seen pump handle screws on an Innova and, like you Louis, I suspect they are non-standard.

    Nice job though -- they are almost "fore and aft"!

  13. #73
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hollesley, near Woodbridge
    Posts
    2,957
    Quote Originally Posted by AllanM View Post
    I've never seen pump handle screws on an Innova and, like you Louis, I suspect they are non-standard
    I would agree, non standard, I had a couple of Innova's and the pins were always tight on mine, even after alot of use
    Custom BSA S10 .22 PAX Phoenix Mk 2 .22 Custom Titan Manitou .22 (JB BP) HW77 .22 FWB Sport Mk1 .22 Sharp Ace .22 Crossman 600 .22 Berretta 92 .20 Desert Eagle .177

  14. #74
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Location
    Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    Posts
    1,854
    Thank you AllanM and MartynB.
    The .177 was my first Innova. I thought, hmmm, not very pretty. But wanted to know what they're like.
    Immediately fell in love with it. Long range plinking with three easy pumps, suits me well.

  15. #75
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Hollesley, near Woodbridge
    Posts
    2,957
    Quote Originally Posted by louisvanhovell View Post
    Thank you AllanM and MartynB.
    The .177 was my first Innova. I thought, hmmm, not very pretty. But wanted to know what they're like.
    Immediately fell in love with it. Long range plinking with three easy pumps, suits me well.
    I had one .22 Innova for a few years with the Galway silencer and alloy adapter, defintely needed it as without it had a hell of a crack, accounted for alot of rabbits, squirrels etc

    Oddly, the .22 Ace that followed I didn't fit a silencer which I recall as not being as loud as the Innova without silencer
    Custom BSA S10 .22 PAX Phoenix Mk 2 .22 Custom Titan Manitou .22 (JB BP) HW77 .22 FWB Sport Mk1 .22 Sharp Ace .22 Crossman 600 .22 Berretta 92 .20 Desert Eagle .177

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •