Webley thoughts

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I suppose this was started by just wondering what sort of accuracy could be squeezed out of the original design. Taking up tolerances, trying to ensure the barrel went back to the same position for each shot etc. I think Webley reckoned a Premier could group in an inch at 30ft. I can get within that with my LP53 & I wondered what factors prevent me doing that with the Premier. I realise the Webley design was never meant to be a 10m paper puncher but despite all its positives I wondered if I could shoot tighter groups with it. I like its compactness & wouldnt really want to increase its length. I had wondered about making a barrel shroud to mount both sights on as one possibility of a mod that might have a benefit. I dont want to try & convert a Premier into a match pistol ( not a practical idea) but just wondering if there are any mods that can be done to make a Webley shoot as accurately as possible. Trigger sems ok, but sights & barrel placement seem possible areas to look at.......quite like the grip angle but have added a big lump of lead into the lower frame section to change weight distribution.I think it improved the feel & might be a little less hold sensitive. Might just be my feeling though, bit subjective.
Never had a 'modern' Webley so cant say anything about the Tempest Typhoon or Hurricane but would be interested in any positives or negatives compared to the 'old' Webley. Heard people decry them because they are not steel, but is that really an issue...? Light alloys are used in many applications quite happily, so as long as the choice is fit for puropse id be happy.
So thats kind of where I am at the moment with thoughts on what might be feasible. Open tooo ideas, it might not get off the drawing board but id be interested to hear of any mods to get the potential accuracy up, (appart from pellet choice & practice),
Thanks

Well the Tempest / Hurricane trigger mod gives a trigger that pisses all over earlier pistols https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery....ebley-tempest/ . The Tempest is probably very underated but some of the ideas are good. (Imagine if earlier Webley pistols did not have the threaded guide/ slash endplug-- but retained the pivot screw. Also a fulcrum plate you can change is a good idea).

Right--Just my feelings here. And starting with stuff that can be reversed. Somebody made up a rearsight for me for a Premier tha was more easily adjusted. It was a bloody big ugly alloy thing with a wide square notch. That gave a very good sight picture , with a fair bit of daylight either side of the foresight post.

I think if you could get a wrap around set of grips made----that would give a better hold (Scroll down to look at Tempest ones http://anotherairgunblog.blogspot.co.../label/Tempest ) I shoot 2 handed due to bad arms and that helps accuracy for me

I usually cut 3 coils off a Webley pistol spring, so it just comes to the end of the cylinder. You dont seem to lose much power but easier to cock and less recoil.

If you have the earlier type Premier with the screwed on piston washer, you could get someone to make you one that is about 5mm longer to shortstroke the gun and cut recoil.

people use "power washers" or thin delrin washers at either end of the mainspring to reduce friction.

If you wanted to go a bit further, get a Hurricane barrel (the end of the extended housing doesnt contain any more barrel than a Tempest) and maybe get some sort of insert made up so you can profile a foresight post to your liking . Another way would be to buy a rough Premier barrel and get the end welded up and profiled.

Regarding securing the barrel in the breech jaws --for now---I'd be tempted to try one of those plastic plant ties that are a bit like cable ties but you can unclip---------------and tighten it each time you close the barrel up---just to try it for a few shots. If there is no improvement, then no point in trying to tighten the barrel catch etc.

I hope some of this is of some use to you




PS --always worth a look http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....t=webley+steyr