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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    translate this and read the results . https://www.diana-airguns.de/fileadm...gel/wm1016.pdf

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tran...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    from the pictures text

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    The metal components for Diana products are manufactured in Gabrovo, Bulgaria by Gabinvest EOOD.
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    The assembly takes place in Ense, Sauerland, the headquarters of German Sport Guns

    I think covers the cheap Diana's other than the rebadged Chinese ones.
    That article was 4 years ago, has production changed since then ? I don't think Diana would be in any rush to tell us.
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    The trouble with controversial threads of the type you have mentioned is that there is often not a "correct" answer, but it's down to personal preference or taste - or lack of it if your on the other side of the debate

    I don't mind the discussion - until the other people start telling you your wrong just because they are not articulate enough to provide a convincingly suitable and persuasive argument for their point of view, then I just switch off because they are clearly morons or trying to get a rise out of me.

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    I like the ones where ordinary decent people point out that those who keep dogs as pets and think the dog “loves” them actually have a problem relating to their fellow humans, and are basically psychopaths

    And then all the doggy lovers go ape shoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbly bob View Post
    I like the ones where ordinary decent people point out that those who keep dogs as pets and think the dog “loves” them actually have a problem relating to their fellow humans, and are basically psychopaths

    And then all the doggy lovers go ape shoot
    And cat shooting threads.

    Basically “I love cats and people who shoot them are vile” (me) against “you shouldn’t shoot them but actually cats are evil and I hate them”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesim1 View Post
    The trouble with controversial threads of the type you have mentioned is that there is often not a "correct" answer, but it's down to personal preference or taste - or lack of it if your on the other side of the debate

    I don't mind the discussion - until the other people start telling you your wrong just because they are not articulate enough to provide a convincingly suitable and persuasive argument for their point of view, then I just switch off because they are clearly morons or trying to get a rise out of me.

    (cough, cough - only the devil uses .22 - cough)

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    If you show proof of your statements then that should stop the arguing but to some they don't want to believe it and keep saying the proof is not real when there is loads of proof to say it is real.

    I guess some don't like the truth or just like to think they are right even when the facts tell them they are wrong .

    if I can be proved wrong I accept it and move on .

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    American controlled root radius, not a new invention, just a re-hash of the Whitworth thread form.

    Typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    If you show proof of your statements then that should stop the arguing but to some they don't want to believe it and keep saying the proof is not real when there is loads of proof to say it is real.

    I guess some don't like the truth or just like to think they are right even when the facts tell them they are wrong .

    if I can be proved wrong I accept it and move on .
    Just wondering what you make of Diana's latest web site where they state what guns are made in Germany, what guns are assembled in Germany and what guns are designed in Germany, would that come under trade description law if it was wrong.





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    Barry, as much as I like my Diana's, I think many manufacturers these days don't mind inserting their German connection to capitalise on it, (the word Germany appears under each of those pics) but then it's down to the reader's literary skills to see through each printed assertion for what it really is. It's a sad fact of modern life.

    Germanic sounding names on what are obviously Far Eastern manufactured tools spring to mind. Cheap scopes with German names are another.....and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvd View Post
    Barry, as much as I like my Diana's, I think many manufacturers these days don't mind inserting their German connection to capitalise on it, (the word Germany appears under each of those pics) but then it's down to the reader's literary skills to see through each printed assertion for what it really is. It's a sad fact of modern life.

    Germanic sounding names on what are obviously Far Eastern manufactured tools spring to mind. Cheap scopes with German names are another.....and so on.
    Yes I agree with what you say the only controversy is are ALL Diana guns now not made in Germany and from what Diana says when interviewed that their (performance range) are 100% made in Germany, but it is clear that the others are made in Bulgaria and China, the thing is are they not telling the truth why not say all the Diana ranges are made in Germany instead of saying only the performance range is made in Germany on their web site.

    Some like to consecrate on old info that don't mention any particular model but it is (still controversial) when it states on a up to date website that SOME models are still made in Germany.
    I guess some don't like the truth or just like to think they are right even when the facts tell them they are wrong

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    No controversy as far as I can see, made in Germany means exactly that, anything else means it's not, but it's not necessarily rubbish either.
    We have to accept that manufacturing and assembly takes place outside the country that is associated with the brand.
    Nothing wrong with that as long as the quality and price are acceptable.
    For instance I think some ex Eastern European airguns are very well made and I would not mind at all if Diana were to farm out some of its production to them to keep prices acceptable.
    It's the world we live in now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighit View Post
    If you show proof of your statements then that should stop the arguing but to some they don't want to believe it and keep saying the proof is not real when there is loads of proof to say it is real.

    I guess some don't like the truth or just like to think they are right even when the facts tell them they are wrong .

    if I can be proved wrong I accept it and move on .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesim1 View Post
    The trouble with controversial threads of the type you have mentioned is that there is often not a "correct" answer, but it's down to personal preference or taste - or lack of it if your on the other side of the debate
    Very well said James
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