This is a very useful discussion, but can we keep to facts or actual relevant legislation please.
Thank you.
Dave
I’m looking for a Crosman 1100 trapmaster
Not a lot in UK now but I know they’re still out there.
Has anyone owned one of these beautiful co2 shotguns?
Also what are the legalities on owning one of these?
I’ve heard you need FAC or SGC to own one, is this true?
Last edited by Lee5159; 29-07-2021 at 08:52 PM.
This is a very useful discussion, but can we keep to facts or actual relevant legislation please.
Thank you.
Dave
Smell my cheese
Personally I would say that it does not seem to fall into the definition of the firearms that require and fac or a sgc to own (read s.1 of the firearms act) , subject to (I would think) the total energy of all the pellets fired in one go being under 12 ftlbs.
But that’s just a bloke on the Internet reading an Act.
Morally flawed
According to the article in the first edition Air Gun Digest, the Crosman had a bore of .380 with no choke, and according to Crosman each shot container held 62 grains of US equivalent to 8.5 shot, diameter .086 inch in diameter. Muzzle velocity was quoted at between 400 to 450 fps.
Each pellet weighed about a grain, so an individual pellet would be under the limit, but all together who knows.
Each pellet weighed about a grain, so an individual pellet would be under the limit, but all together who knows.
Muzzle energy is what it says on the tin. If that is over 12 ft/lbs when discharged it is a section 1 firearm
Thanks for all the reply’s folks, much appreciated
ATB,
Lee
I have checked this out with an RFD who was heavily involved in the manufacture of airguns, now only one-offs. He had checked this out at the request of several customers who wanted smoothbore air shotguns. Because the ME is over 12 ft/lbs it is classed as a section one firearm and would not class as a shotgun. You might want to argue that in court if you have money to throw awy on expensive lawyers.
Micks Guns has a Trapmaster for £550. He is an RFD and would know whether it's s1 or not.
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Correct. It is covered by Statutory Instrument no. 47 of 1969 . The Dangerous Air Weapons legislation. There is no distinction between Smooth or Rifled bores. The only change to the legislation since it was made is that over 6FPE pistols are Section 5 now. Not section 1.
Can't get away with section 58 of the 1968 act as ammunition is still available and they are too new to benefit from the pre 1939 exemptions.
I can't actually see what this debate is about as the situation is clear cut.
The RFD I mentioned has a commission from a long time UK customer for a .45" air rifle. If it were a smoothbore the same paperwork would be required.
Noce to have someone reply. One further niggle is why do folk misspell Crosman. The niggle grows in size every time I see the name spelt incorrectly. It's not just a pedant thing.