Evening Tony. The 85 is fitted with a Hawke Vantage 3-9×40 that it came with and the 2 piece Sportmatch mounts are very stable. . It was shooting .22 RWS Meisterkugelen that you put me onto from the Sheffield place and they are the best pellets I have shot out to 25m.
The 38 wore a Diana diopter sight until Friday aftenoon when I put an old Tasco 1.75-5x40 on it. Interesting how a scope alters the balance and affects recoil characteristics. I put H&N FTTs through it. Typically very tight in the bore but they were great in it.