Learned Gents.....

[Unframed Dave]

Any clues, there's no makers name as such on the box. Push rod cocking, similar to a Bussey.

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Cheers

Dave

[T 20]

I think it could be French, Dave.

[Unframed Dave]

I think it could be French, Dave.

Thanks mick, I knew you'd have something to contribute.

Dave

[PCPShooter]

Brilliant, that's made my morning already !

[ccdjg]

It's a new one on me. At first I thought it might be one of those early French toy pistols where the spring directly propels the pellet or dart (there is a great overview of these here https://www.voitureapedales.com/la-f...uets-eureka-2/), particularly as "baliste" translates as catapult. But on looking closer at the shape of the gun and the mention of a piston,I think it is a true airgun. It must be a take on the Bussey pistol, but without the detachable barrel. The artwork on rhe box is reminiscent of the Giffard brochures, and I would guess it dates from a similar period.

I could only find a mention of this gun in a French auction from an online search, but no image or details. Do you actually have this gun yourself, as lt would be great to have more pics and details?

Cheers
John

[Binners]

I think it could be French, Dave.

Lucky guess

[Unframed Dave]

It's a new one on me. At first I thought it might be one of those early French toy pistols where the spring directly propels the pellet or dart (there is a great overview of these here https://www.voitureapedales.com/la-f...uets-eureka-2/), particularly as "baliste" translates as catapult. But on looking closer at the shape of the gun and the mention of a piston,I think it is a true airgun. It must be a take on the Bussey pistol, but without the detachable barrel. The artwork on rhe box is reminiscent of the Giffard brochures, and I would guess it dates from a similar period.

I could only find a mention of this gun in a French auction from an online search, but no image or details. Do you actually have this gun yourself, as lt would be great to have more pics and details?

Cheers
John

Hi john

It's a new acquisition. Let me have an email and a list of what photos you want and I'll sort.

Do you have a link to the auction details?

Cheers

Dave

[Unframed Dave]

Definitely an air pistol, moderately pokey too. I'll put it over a chrono later.

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Dave

[micky2]

Definitely an air pistol, moderately pokey too. I'll put it over a chrono later.

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Dave

What a great find, and another unknown pistol. lucky man.

[T 20]

Lucky guess

I cheated, Pete --- I Googled where Paris is.

[ccdjg]

Hi john

It's a new acquisition. Let me have an email and a list of what photos you want and I'll sort.

Do you have a link to the auction details?

Cheers

Dave

Thanks for the offer Dave, but your picture of the disassembled gun probably says it all. However, it would be nice to also have a pic of the gun taken from the other side. Are there any pellets in the tin? If so, a pic of these would also be great. Just put the pics on here and Danny will ensure that they get into the Gallery.

For the pistol record, I would be very grateful if you could also provide the following details:

Overall length
Calibre
Weight
Any markings?

It is a fantastic find, as unknown vintage air pistols turn up only once in a blue moon. And to have the box is the icing on the cake. Boy, am I envious!

The entry I found on Google was one of those frustrating ones, where there is more information on the Google extract than in the original source. Looking up Armes Aero-Baliste Paris, Google gave one hit, saying " Souvenirs historiques, militaria et armes se côtoient dans ces ventes, en toute sécurité… ... Lot n°608 Pistolet L'AERO BALISTE, notice d'utilisation et…". Unfortunately when you go to the source, a French auction site, Lot 608 no longer exists and I have not been able to sus out a way of searching the site. [https://www.interencheres.com/meuble...umber=&page=8]

Many thanks,
John

[Geezer]

Thanks for the offer Dave, but your picture of the disassembled gun probably says it all. However, it would be nice to also have a pic of the gun taken from the other side. Are there any pellets in the tin? If so, a pic of these would also be great. Just put the pics on here and Danny will ensure that they get into the Gallery.

For the pistol record, I would be very grateful if you could also provide the following details:

Overall length
Calibre
Weight
Any markings?

It is a fantastic find, as unknown vintage air pistols turn up only once in a blue moon. And to have the box is the icing on the cake. Boy, am I envious!

The entry I found on Google was one of those frustrating ones, where there is more information on the Google extract than in the original source. Looking up Armes Aero-Baliste Paris, Google gave one hit, saying " Souvenirs historiques, militaria et armes se côtoient dans ces ventes, en toute sécurité… ... Lot n°608 Pistolet L'AERO BALISTE, notice d'utilisation et…". Unfortunately when you go to the source, a French auction site, Lot 608 no longer exists and I have not been able to sus out a way of searching the site. [https://www.interencheres.com/meuble...umber=&page=8]

Many thanks,
John

Tried the Wayback Machine?

[ccdjg]

Tried the Wayback Machine?

I must admit I had never heard of the Wayback Machine, so I looked it up on Wikipedia. I then tried to follow their instructions on the Wayback website, but got nowhere. I couldn't really understand what it was all about. Maybe some of you tech wizards out there could give it a shot?

[DrGunn]

I must admit I had never heard of the Wayback Machine, so I looked it up on Wikipedia. I then tried to follow their instructions on the Wayback website, but got nowhere. I couldn't really understand what it was all about. Maybe some of you tech wizards out there could give it a shot?

Unfortunately it appears the page you’re looking for hasn’t been archived.

[Unframed Dave]

A few better snaps (Danny, I'll mail you the better quality versions).

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I've measured the calibre at 6,3mm.

Length is 253 mm or as near as 10"

Weight is 7.5 ozs or 214gms.

Using a fairly weighty pellet (26.9gns) it chronos at a heady 0.2ftlbs. That was the best result from a string of 3.

Dave