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    Velocity of 22 caliber pellet required to kill starlings and grackels

    I have a friend that asked me to help him find a pellet pistol for eliminating these pests from his yard. He says they create terrible messes on their patio, sidewalks and other areas. He wants a pellet pistol for his wife. He has a break barrel RWS rifle but she cannot cock it. He is away on his job for weeks at a time. She wants a pistol, however I do not think she can cock a break barrel. My question is, will a CO2 pistol with 450 FPS velocity have enough energy to do the job. I do not know if he has an air compressor. Would a standard air compressor have enough pressure to charge a PCP? Any info and recommendations would be appreciated.

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    450fps would be enough at close range, about 15 yds. The difficulty is hitting the target with a pistol.
    She would be much better off with a rifle, C02 or PCP.

    In the UK we cannot shoot starlings.
    Do we have Grackles in the UK?
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    They are a kind of all black magpie like bird i have seen in Central and the Southern States of North America
    They were a real pain in Costa Rica
    Saw some in Mexico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil54 View Post
    Do we have Grackles in the UK?
    Don't think we do
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    how about getting a decoy bird of prey and moving that around the garden,that will keep them away while your mate is away then when he is back just use his airgun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfish View Post
    No Neil
    They are a kind of all black magpie like bird i have seen in Central and the Southern States of North America
    They were a real pain in the Costa Rica
    Saw some in Mexico

    Is that rhyming slang?

    As above, a pistol has the power, but not the accuracy required. A low powered rifle is much better
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    Look at crosmans co2 offerings, no cocking required. Like everyone else has said you need a rifle for this, shooting birds in the body will lead to slow excruciating deaths, it needs to be head shots, even an expert with a pistol is going to have trouble doing that
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    Obviously the laws in the USA are very different from our own, but I don't consider any pistol suitable for shooting pests apart from dispatching cage caught pests
    I would advise you get some clarification on the details of the situation especially the shooting range & layout,

    I'm guessing that his rifle is pretty high power hence it's hard to cock it, where a lower power rifle would require less cocking effort & might be an option for his wife,
    another option is CO2 if it's legal over there, but whatever the choice it needs a shoulder stock so it can be aimed correctly.

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    might be better off with a small calibre shotgun, 9mm (garden gun) should do it, don`t knowabout the suppy issue in the states though?

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    If it shoots BB then it's not really up to the task, your most affordable options for the US wuld probably be a Daisy Powerline 880 or Crossman, they'll pack the power needed for a clean kill and can be found in places like Walmart.
    I think Pyramid Air has a forum, that might be a better bet for getting the answer as it's US rather than UK as mentioned we can't shoot Starlings here and Grackles are not native.
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    CO2 Rifle

    As well as the Crosman’s mentioned, look at the Snowpeak XS501 in .22. They have power adjusters when you remove the stock, (only 2 screws). They hold twice the CO2 that the Crosmans do. Look them up on the USA forums.

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    Why is everyone mentioning the USA?, the OP is in Moscow - pretty sure that's Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAGUE View Post
    Why is everyone mentioning the USA?, the OP is in Moscow - pretty sure that's Russia.
    Moscow, Kansas is how I read his location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLAGUE View Post
    Why is everyone mentioning the USA?, the OP is in Moscow - pretty sure that's Russia.
    Because they are in Moscow Kansas, the US has a lot of places that were named after places throughout europe and Asia based on the peoples who colonised those areas.

    Alabama has Birmingham, Texas has Paris etc.
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