Shooting jackets/gloves etc... Can you please explain?

[TenMetrePeter]

Two years ago I started wearing a jacket. Almost no improvement in average but no back ache. Following year made a new alloy stock to the new rules to replace the wood one and improved by 7%

What amazes me is that jeans are banned in pistol comps at Bisley, not that I have ever qualified to compete there.

[majex45]

Two years ago I started wearing a jacket. Almost no improvement in average but no back ache. Following year made a new alloy stock to the new rules to replace the wood one and improved by 7%

What amazes me is that jeans are banned in pistol comps at Bisley, not that I have ever qualified to compete there.

I have shot pistol competitions at Bisley wearing jeans and normal shoes.
However I didn't win.

[zooma]

What amazes me is that jeans are banned in pistol comps at Bisley, not that I have ever qualified to compete there.

Its probably a dress code thing

Some posh pubs are like that too!

[tim s]

Its probably a dress code thing

Some posh pubs are like that too!

It's an ISSF rule applied for certain matches. The rule is a rather misguided attempt to make the sport appear more sporty at Olympic level, where there might be TV cameras.

Jeans are perfectly welcome at the NSRA Bisley meeting.

[zooma]

The rule is a rather misguided attempt to make the sport appear more sporty at Olympic level, where there might be TV cameras.

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Again- just like some pubs I know - they call them "sports bars"

They will be insisting on wearing ties next

[RobinC]

It's an ISSF rule applied for certain matches. The rule is a rather misguided attempt to make the sport appear more sporty at Olympic level, where there might be TV cameras.

Jeans are perfectly welcome at the NSRA Bisley meeting.

As Tim says there is NO "No jeans" rule at Bisley, they have enough problems getting the target systems to work! It is a classic piece of pretentiousness from some senior people on the ISSF, and disagreed with by many international associations, who generally exclude that rule from their meetings. I know one where all the officials wear jeans with blazers and ties, to wind up the ISSF? surely not! The same section of ISSF rules covers other "inappropriate" dress, such as shorts shorter than the middle of the knee, bare feet, or socks only, sandals, even when shooting prone, and torn trousers, and actually if you read it carefully even cargo type pants, and jeans type trousers, and inappropriate logo Tee shirts, that's a minefield, and a challenge to double meaning logo's!!!

One International federation, followed by a second, just to wind up the ISSF made jeans their international uniform! Aaaarrgh! heart attacks in Munich!

Fun game this!

[TenMetrePeter]

It's an ISSF rule applied for certain matches. The rule is a rather misguided attempt to make the sport appear more sporty at Olympic level, where there might be TV cameras.

Jeans are perfectly welcome at the NSRA Bisley meeting.

One of my friends was challenged 2 years ago in the NSRA Eley air pistol round 3 (Bisley final) for wearing jeans. He was allowed to continue after the official looked at his average. Presumably no chance of winning was the criterion. Depends who is running it I guess.

[RobinC]

One of my friends was challenged 2 years ago in the NSRA Eley air pistol round 3 (Bisley final) for wearing jeans. He was allowed to continue after the official looked at his average. Presumably no chance of winning was the criterion. Depends who is running it I guess.

That would have been one official who overstepped the mark and exceeded his authority, the concern now is getting people to enter not turning them away.

As for the gear, if you don't want to wear it don't, it protects and its part of the sport, the deliberately intended insulting comments from those with no knowledge or expertise would be better placed supporting our sport.

Have Fun
Robin

[Hemmers]

As others have adequately answered, it is the inevitable refinement of traditional techniques. One of those "historical reasons" cases.

Two-stage slings (common on military rifles past WW2) gave way to single-point slings, people's "shooting jacket" (which was the one they didn't mind getting mucky on a muddy grass firing point) eventually developed a keeper on the shoulder to retain the sling, and went on to develop elbow pads, the construction moved to leather and canvas, etc to the brightly coloured things you see today.

Other disciplines such as NSRA Lightweight Sport Rifle or NRA Gallery Rifle offer a more "barebones" alternative. Something for everybody

In terms of jeans/denim. There is NO prohibition on jeans "at Bisley". Athletes shooting in an ISSF-rules Match (which will most likely be .22/air in the Lord Roberts Centre, although also ISSF Shotgun on the NCSC layouts) may find themselves receiving an advisory to the fact that jeans are illegal under ISSF rules - their heavy-handed and largely misguided attempt to make the sport look "professional" and more athletic for the media. This rule does not of course apply to non-competitors, spectators, or even competitors when off the firing point and "out of competition" or anywhere else on Bisley in non-ISSF competitions (NRA/NSRA/CPSA/<other> rules).

[Sir_SwampThing]

My original question may well have been clumsy but was certainly not intended to offend anyone, so I apologize if I have.
I was just surprised to find that the two categories had such different rules regarding what was and wasn't permitted. As both disciplines have the same objective, hitting the target, I wondered why more equipment/support/clothing was allowed for rifle compared to pistol?
Not sure if I have asked the question any more eloquently or not?
Cheers
Chris